[Clemenza]

There is an Amador County Zinfandel that I had just last week. The winery is owned by an Isreali but I forget the name. Begins with "De" and sounds Italian.

We know hell has frozen over when the San Joaquain Valley from Modesto down to Bakersfield starts producing quality wine. Not going to happen as its just too damn hot during the day (and not cool enough at night) to grow good vinifera grapes.

[GVnana]

Got me on that one. There's Deaver, Dobra Zemlja, Domaine de la Terre Rouge/Easton...D'Agostino bottled under Sobon?