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To: Stingy Dog
You make it sound that doctors have a monopoly over our lives.

I said or implied no such thing. Every post I have made on this thread has at least hinted at being an active partner in your health care. If you don't trust your current doctor, find another. If you want to manage your own healthcare without a doctor, have at it.

So, in essence, what you're saying, doc, is either we are subservient to the all-knowing, monopolistic doctor, or we'll die? LOL!

No, what I am saying is that in the early 1900's, the life expectancy was what, about 40? Now it's what? Late 70's? Walk through an old cematary in any big city. How many infants are there from the late 1800's? The increase in life expectancy with a phenomenal decrease in infant mortality was not the result of a fatalistic, humanistic philosophic system.

24 posted on 10/19/2005 1:46:59 AM PDT by Gamecock (Crystal meth is not a fruit of the Spirit.)
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To: Gamecock
No, what I am saying is that in the early 1900's, the life expectancy was what, about 40? Now it's what? Late 70's? Walk through an old cematary in any big city. How many infants are there from the late 1800's? The increase in life expectancy with a phenomenal decrease in infant mortality was not the result of a fatalistic, humanistic philosophic system.

A lot of it is due to better plumbing. But much of it, and an increase in general quality of life for many, is due to inoculations and antibiotics.

My doctor told me, as part of his sales pitch (he knew I wasn't about to take or change anything without being convinced) for a change in medication that of all the cholesterol lowering drugs, only the statins have been demonstrated to actually increase life span. I changed, and my numbers are much lower. I was amazed and pleased, and so was he. Can't remember all the numbers but LDL went from 130 to 60, triglycerides down about 1/3 (and they weren't that bad to begin with). Actually the LDL went from 160 to 60, but that 160 was up from 130 due to a misfiling of a previous prescription by the pharmacy. I was taking zyrtec instead of zestril! (pills looked about the same, and I thought the difference was due to a change in generic brand when I changed pharmacies, not to the pharmacy having mis read the prescription) Had trouble sleeping for a week or so after stopping it. I had wondered why I was so drowsy in the afternoon, after taking it at lunch time. :) I was also taking Allegra at the same time. Well no long term harm done I guess, I hope.

40 posted on 10/28/2005 1:16:58 PM PDT by El Gato
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