Posted on 10/17/2005 12:14:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
Interested Parents,
Tuesday, October 18th at the Biltmore Hotel & Conference Center 7:00 8:30pm, we are holding a meeting to inform, educate, and rally the public around the egregious abuse of power by the Santa Clara Social Services, Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS) Child Protective Services (CPS) as they attempt to rip my family, and many others apart. The Biltmore is located just south of Montague Expressway, east of highway 101 at 2151 Laurelwood Rd, Santa.
At issue are three key points that will be of interest to you as a parent:
Because we are home schoolers, we initially consulted the HSLDA who advised us not to allow CPS into our home or to interview our children unsupervised. We were further advised to seek the services of a local attorney to ensure that our rights as parents were not violated as we work to clear our names related to the allegations of child abuse, which we did.
The DFCS, as a result of our refusal to allow them to interrogate our young children without supervision, together with the fact that we home school and therefore they are unable to gain access to our children without our permission (as is commonly done when children attend school outside of the home), went to court and swore out a Protective Custody Warrant to force themselves into our home, to have their way with our children, and to remove my oldest son into their protective custody. Today, my wife and children are in hiding to protect our family, in a location not even know to me, while I have been engaged in a very distressing and disruptive court battle in an effort to have the Protective Custody Warrant quashed, a request that was denied last Friday.
To date, no one at DFCS has been interested in understanding our unique parenting needs, the resources we have used and the third parties who can speak to quality of our parenting, and love that we have for of all of our children. Their action, based on our stance of tell us what you are concerned about so we can give you reasonable access to our family to resolve them, has been to take the child and ask questions later. They have leveraged the courts in this effort.
Since DFCS has no interest, nor apparent requirements to ascertain the facts before they have ripped our family apart, weve decided to share them with you. Perhaps when you speak out someone in the agency will finally listen to how they are about to destroy yet another family in an effort to protect a child that does not need protection and initiate policy based changes. This is why I urge you to come out Tuesday evening! This is a completely free event paid for out of my paycheck.
Thank you for your support,
Mark I. Johnson
Why was the therapist not permitted to testify? Did the family court judge find that the therapist was not qualified?
Also, if the child has been diagnosed with RAD and fetal alcohol syndrome, was the medical doctor who made those diagnosis called to testify?
Yes, most are innocent in that the errors are "convictions" which can be dealt with easily...most of these errors do not concern straight justice such as discipline and rights to stay away from gay parents, but deal with social justice issues: food, money, furniture, clothing, all which have nothing to do with true justice.
But the convicted court system which is out of control and will never raise their own consciousness the way they can raise ours, NAY distort the consciousness of parents. Jesus ate with dirty hands, for goodness sakes.
The proceedings are confidential (which is a problem). All The only people I saw go into the courtroom were Mark and his lawyer. I didn't see the CPS people at all. I was in a waiting room with thirty other supporters.
And also from MedicinePlus:Reactive attachment disorder is a disturbance of social interaction caused by neglect of a child's basic physical and emotional needs, particularly during infancy.
It may be a relatively newly recognized phenomenon but it is nonetheless recognized and defined by medical groups. And medical groups are part of modern science.
Hi Sandra. I can attest to the fact that DCFS is FRIGHTENING!!!! AS a foster parent for over 40 years, I can assure you that the system is broken!!!! Children are removed for the WRONG reasons and LEFT at home for the WRONG reasons. No one really cares about the children. My heart goes out to these adoptive parents. We have adopted many of our foster children and yes, it is a challenge to say the least. Then you get stabbed in the back by the courts and the corrupt children's services!!!!! I KNOW.........
"It borders on criminal that DCFS would have proof of the fas and RAD and prevent the therapist from testifying, the person uniquely qualified to verify the family's story and make them whole again."
Given that "Attachment Therapy" is the biggest frickin' therapy scam out there today now that "repressed memory syndrome" has been debunked, I would like to know who the therapist is before saying s/he is "uniquely qualified" in any way, shape, or form.
"Why was the therapist not permitted to testify? Did the family court judge find that the therapist was not qualified?"
I don't think you were supposed to ask that.
Were from the government and were here to help And they always know whats best for you /s
The State Boys Rebellion
http://www.simonsays.com/content/content.cfm?sid=33&pid=422319
exceprts from link:
>>> Though they couldn't possible know it, the children of the Fernald State School were the victims of bad science and a newly developed bureaucracy .....
Yet they were denied proper education, routinely abused, and could be subjected to forced surgical sterilization, lobotomy, shock therapy, and psychotropic drugs.......
It reveals the danger in misguided science, the fearsome power of unchecked bureaucracies, <<<<<
Its interesting that Germany looked to the US for its ideas on eugenics
One of the kids later as an adult and having been released. Found his mother, and his case files. As he read them. He concluded that he would have had a horrible home life.
But he states it would still have been better than the one he got from the state. And he would have known who his family was.
True. See the remainder of my reply; I comment on that very thing.
For every CPS abuse, there is a story where CPS didn't step in and a child died.
We've been burned several times on these stories where the parents telling the story inadvertantly leave out critical elements like busting their child in the head with a shovel. It's the "po po me" syndrome.
Tell me, Rodney, is ignorance truly blissful? If you don't know anything about RAD, why not search it before making a comment as inane as that? My youngest son has a similar disorder called ODD and used to pee his pants at will. These kids are FAR from ordinary and cannot be treated as such. Read up on it and THEN come back and comment. Sheesh.
"We've been burned several times on these stories where the parents telling the story inadvertantly leave out critical elements like busting their child in the head with a shovel. It's the "po po me" syndrome."
Yup, the jails are full of innocent people. I mean, who ya gonna believe, the inmate or the lying video camera that showed him robbing a liquor store?
Have you pinged on this one? My memory isn't the greatest.
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You are correct, I'm not a homeschooler, so you know plenty more than I do about that. Several others on this thread have been quite pleasant in informing me of the role that HSLDA plays.
I hope that HSLDA did not suggest that the parents flee with the other kids, though. That would be pretty crappy defense work.
"Stupid move. Going into hiding is sufficient to create a legal presumption of guilt that is damn near impossible to contest."
Your first point may not be correct. Your second point certainly is, however. IIRC, Santa Clara County CPS has something of a reputation for being a bull-in-a-china-shop, and not bothering to check their facts before taking action. This in not the first complaint I've heard against them.
I'm not sure, however that reaction isn't preferable to what we often get here in Central Oklahoma, however, where they often fail to check any facts, or take any action...
On the horns of a dilemma here...
"I hope that HSLDA did not suggest that the parents flee with the other kids, though. That would be pretty crappy defense work."
I'm pretty sure that they did no such thing; I know several people who use the HSLDA, and they give sound legal advice (have your attorney present, record all communications with the school district or CPS, etc).
One thing that worries me is the mother taking off and the father deliberately cutting himself out of the loop as to her location. It strikes me as an effort at avoiding jail for contempt when he refuses to divulge the wherabouts of his children. I don't trust people who spend a lot of time strategizing about how to avoid jail time.
"IIRC, Santa Clara County CPS has something of a reputation for being a bull-in-a-china-shop, and not bothering to check their facts before taking action. This in not the first complaint I've heard against them."
You will ALWAYS get complaints like that against CPS. How many parents are going to publicly say that they're s**tty parents who should not be entrusted with a Beanie Baby, let alone a child?
All CPS truly requires is the fear invoked by the agency's name (and reputation). To deny them at the door by asking they show a warrant is to pique their interest to an uncomfortable level and put you in a bad light. I was investigated years ago and was told by two different attorneys that I did not have the money nor power to fight them. Essentially, bend over and take it or risk the wrath of the CPS. I knew I had nothing to fear with the truth on my side and I fought without an attorney; the charges were dismissed in record time and my record was wiped clean. If they had taken one of my kids, though, you can bet your bippy I'd have put the second one into hiding!
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