[PetroniusMaximus]

*** No, they do not *own* the other person. And in all such cases both parties freely agree to the contract.***

As posted elswhere - some forms of slavery were willingly entered into (and many are not).


*** He agreed entirely with your views on slavery and capitalism. ***

You are painting with a broad brush. Capitaism is not necessarily slavery - but some forms of have existed in capitalistic societies.



*** "In the current US legal climate, are children the "property" of the state?" No. They are not.***

The how can the State take your children from you and give them to someone else?


*** No, you and your theocratic friends haven't taken over yet.***

You are a slave, but you don't know it. You are a slave to sin. Just take one week of your life to commit no sin - use Matt; 5-7 as a guide for what sin is. Come back and tell me if you can do it.

If you can do that - 1 week without sin, you are not a slave.

If you can't then you are a slave.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"As posted elswhere - some forms of slavery were willingly entered into (and many are not). "

Evidence please.

"You are painting with a broad brush. Baptism is not necessarily slavery - but some forms of have existed in capitalistic societies. "

Not necessarily?? You equated the willing exchange of goods and services with slavery. That's a Marxist talking point. The fact that slavery existed in nominally capitalist societies does not make slavery a function of capitalism. They are antagonist's. Capitalism demands the free exchange of goods and services, which can never happen under slavery.

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The how can the State take your children from you and give them to someone else? "

Because they are not the property of their birth parents either. If you beat and abuse your children you have given up your parental rights.

"You are a slave, but you don't know it."

You presume too much.

"You are a slave to sin."

As defined by you? You think slavery can be morally acceptable; I don't need lessons in morality from the likes of you.

"Just take one week of your life to commit no sin - use Matt; 5-7 as a guide for what sin is. Come back and tell me if you can do it."

Why don't you spend the time reading up on some science instead, so you won't look so foolish. Maybe you can buy a slave to do it for you.

What arrogance you creationists have.