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To: balrog666
Between the advancement of science and a return to the Middle Ages. Oh, what great fun.

I don't think the issue is between the Luddites and those who want to learn and explore. If you could separate the "Science" from the "Scientific Establishment" I would say the battle is more with the Scientific Establishment as they are part of the establishment of the liberal universities, that tend to follow the liberal line on all the issues.

39 posted on 10/16/2005 2:16:12 PM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Mrs Mark
I would say the battle is more with the Scientific Establishment as they are part of the establishment of the liberal universities, that tend to follow the liberal line on all the issues.

Most scientists could give a rat's ass whether their university is liberal or conservative. And, after 40 years as a scientist, the great majority of scientists I've encountered are actually conservatives.

You are bound and determined to fit science and scientists into your preconceived mold, even if there's not a good fit.

This is also typical of those who are creationists or ID proponents: that is, to them, scientists are either 1. Atheists, 2. Liberals, 3. outright Marxists or 4. rigidly dogmatic.

Like those who argue that way about creationism or ID, you are wrong about your presumptions concerning scientists.

42 posted on 10/16/2005 2:30:40 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Mrs Mark
I don't think the issue is between the Luddites and those who want to learn and explore.

You are wrong.

If you could separate the "Science" from the "Scientific Establishment" I would say the battle is more with the Scientific Establishment as they are part of the establishment of the liberal universities, that tend to follow the liberal line on all the issues.

Wrong again. And again. And yet again. Wrong three times in one sentence - is that a record for you?

56 posted on 10/16/2005 5:01:52 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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