[Rudder]

I would say the battle is more with the Scientific Establishment as they are part of the establishment of the liberal universities, that tend to follow the liberal line on all the issues.

Most scientists could give a rat's ass whether their university is liberal or conservative. And, after 40 years as a scientist, the great majority of scientists I've encountered are actually conservatives.

You are bound and determined to fit science and scientists into your preconceived mold, even if there's not a good fit.

This is also typical of those who are creationists or ID proponents: that is, to them, scientists are either 1. Atheists, 2. Liberals, 3. outright Marxists or 4. rigidly dogmatic.

Like those who argue that way about creationism or ID, you are wrong about your presumptions concerning scientists.

[Mark was here]

You are bound and determined to fit science and scientists into your preconceived mold, even if there's not a good fit.

Are you familiar with the guy who was fired by Scientific American for being a Christian? The Scientific Community (as represented by Scientific American) introduced me to the concept of politics and science.