Posted on 10/16/2005 12:02:32 PM PDT by gobucks
You posted:
"Seriously, I'd prefer you were in God's graces.."
I posted"...You are incredibly arrogant to think you can decide if I am in God's graces or not."
To which you responded:
"Well, once again, if you bothered to READ, you'd see that I didn't make any such decision...."
I'm not sure if it is logic, common English usage or short term memory problems, but lurkers can decide for themselves.
Do you know how blasphemy works?
Well, I was going to bed till something said I should check what nonsense you came up with. I still am headed for bed. But before I lay down, I'd urge you once again (yes this is twice in a short span) to go back and apply some English Grammer skills in noting that what you quoted didn't end with a period.. it was a partial thought. You read just enough to find offense - apparently because that is what you are looking for. I didn't make any judgement as to your eternal well being. I rather - quite obviously noted, that in light of my preference, you have free will and paddle your own boat. I know you can read, but, once again, you don't read to comprehend.. only to find occasion for beligerance. No, I didn't comment on your apparent stance before the maker one way or the other. I'm not omnipotent. I can express my opinion on what I think if you like.
And most assuredly I do understand blasphemy and what constitutes it. Chiefly it is calling God a liar or imputing to God behavior that is in direct contention with his nature. IE, imputing sin to God would be blasphemy. It isn't a difficult concept. And one can readily provide an example - like, oh, saying God didn't create the universe in six days because you have a more reasonable story you'd like to edit in place of His words.. or perhaps suggesting he didn't make man out of the dust of the earth but rather through mutating animals until he came up with a mutation he decided to slap the label "man" upon.. That one would do all by itself - doesn't need interpretation or anything.. just kinda hangs there openly and blatently. Care to scream uncontrollably now, or will it wait till I wake up. Oh, wait, I have a say in this don't I.. night.
Well, you repeat your hubris.
Sorry you don't understand, but you don't.
I will refer lurkers back to my previous response.
Oh, and thank you for your prior Christmas wishes, early though they may be. Consider them reciprocated.
Science is one of the creative outlets that people may pursue. However it should not be deemed more important than music, art, crafts, building, athletics ... These things benefit people as much as the technology and medicine that comes from science.
Depends a bit on how one views child health, longevity, pain relief, comfort and safety.
Except on a personal basis?
How tolerant of you.
Or as P.J. O'Rourk put it in one word, "Dentistry".
First, though, you have to get it on the run.
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Better. :)
Romans 5:12-21
12. Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned--
13. for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law.
14. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.
15. But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many!
16. Again, the gift of God is not like the result of the one man's sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification.
17. For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ.
18. Consequently, just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men, so also the result of one act of righteousness was justification that brings life for all men.
19. For just as through the disobedience of the one man, the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
20. The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more,
21. so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
The Soviet Union scientists came up with temporary solutions to the issues you listed above, however it had little effect on the Soviet peoples quality of life. There is no pill for suicide, drunkenness, wife and child abuse, drug use or rampant criminality due to the oppression of the human spirit.
The Creator created us to have a relationship with Him. He took this so seriously He became one of us so that we could relate perfectly with Him. God is not some nebulous idea outside of time. He experienced the joys and pains that is common to all of us, and showed us how to relate to one another as we endure. Science is about the relationship we experience with others as we explore together this awesome creation, not only the knowledge we obtain. The death rate is still 100%, and it continues to hover around three score and ten.
Science is entertaining and sometimes helpful.
You insisted on pinging me your crap, so I responded.
Still no quotes from Dr. Rainbow to back your fantasy version of evolution. Not surpised.
You won't catch me being afraid to post my perspectives of the data for all to see and critique. Clearly none of us have enough information to determine the truth, but examining one another's ideas is most of the fun. That's why I continue to read your posts.
It is even fun reading the perspectives of the establishment, if for no other reason than to look for their blind spots.
Did I say, "post-modernist?" I meant "hippie," of course. That @#%$!! establishment! Off the pigs! Peace! Love! Ho! Ho! Ho Chi Minh! The NLF is gonna win! What if they gave a war and nobody came?
There are many Christians, maybe even a majority, who do not take every word of the bible literally. I know I don't.
So what?
I don't either.
MY question is about THOSE words, in THOSE verses.
What do you think?
Yours is a perfect example of why contaminating science education with supernatural explanations leads to less effective science.
Much of the Russian population has a specific genetic predisposition, very well documented, for alcholism.
It has nothing at all to do with communism, Russian Orthodox religion, oppression etc.
I 'think' that I can READ.
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