Guest worker plan being shelved

San Antonio Express-News/Hearst Newspapers ^ | 10/16/2005 | Jennifer A. Dlouhy

[Types_with_Fist]

...put employers of illegals in prison.

I don't disagree (as I consider these sorts not only criminals but traitors) but it's probably more effective to hit them where it hurts... in the pocketbook. That should put a quick end to the under-the-table employment opportunities the illegals are streaming across the border for.

[TigersEye]

You (and J.D. Hayworth Rep. R-AZ) have got it right. Get tough on employers of illegals and no one will employ illegals. With no jobs to work illegals will deport themselves, at their own expense and they will do it quickly.

[185JHP]

Good riddance...

[TigersEye]

No doubt the punishment should fit the crime. In the least instances a $50K fine should do. Repeat offenders, large corps and those who act as suppliers of the illegal labor pool can do 5-10 in state big houses. On top of escalating fines.

[spokeshave]

Thanks...I will print a couple of dozen to mail back to all the GOP hopefuls trying to get into my wallet.

[SwinneySwitch]

This is out of the Congress, not the white house, Nachum.

[Types_with_Fist]

Agree with all of that. The only thing is enforcement. I mean... it's illegal now. There HAS to be a tough enforcement program on this. It doesn't do any good at all to make something more illegal than it is already, unless the enforcement is there. I sure hope that the reps and senators who are heeding their constituents' call on this put something into place that sends a clear message to the offenders.

[ozarkgirl]

With going on 500,000 people out of work thanks to the Gulf hurricanes, a guest worker program makes little sense.

Problem is, you're thinking like a patriot. If you were thinking about how much money you could make, you need to change your thoughts.

Hmm, I have a business, I can employ illegals with less pay and no benefits, no FICA or unemployment taxes on my part, they sure aren't going to complain if they get hurt on the job (no workmans comp), heheh, more money for me! I can still charge the prevailing rate to the consumer. Sounds like a win/win situation to me!

I gotta admit, if I was an employer, I can't find a problem with that. I wish I was less patriot and more greedy. Politicians are greedy and money hungry so they don't see a problem with a third world economy, as long as they aren't part of it.

I've never been a fan of unions, they needed them in the 30's and 40's but I think that time has come again.

[TigersEye]

...how do you impose a jail sentence on a company?

You put the CEO (and possibly other EOs and managers) in prison. What's so hard about that?

[Nachum]

Thanks for the correction.

[TigersEye]

I'm hep to that. A greater will among the people to have the law enforced would go a long way towards making it happen. That brings us back to education and publicity which seems to be coming about.

[Trteamer]

Section 1324c states, "All officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws shall have authority to make arrests for a violation of any provision of this section" (affirmed US v Perez-Gonzalez 2002 Fed App 0360, 6th Circ.).

This is so absurd. My local law enforcement officers have been ordered by the feds to let all ilegals go unless ther is a specific felony warrant out for one of them.

[dagnabbit]

Great find! Easier to send back to the RNC than peso coins.

Hope it's true too that stammering-George's dream of a Mexico merger is really DOA.

[Black Tooth]

and how do you impose a jail sentence on a company?)

You go after the greedy rat that owns the company, the one that hires these criminals. Make an example out of a few hundred of them, and before you know it, America no longer has millions of illegals pouring into our country.

Works for me quite well. And it's way past time to do this.

[ichabod1]

The following is from my last newsletter from my US Rep. John Culberson. I apologize in advance for the lengthyness.

Here is another article that illustrates the seriousness of the emergency along our border. You do not need to go to Iraq to see the war on terror, you can go to Laredo. Ask any law enforcement officer who serves along the Rio Grande and they will confirm that there is a full scale war going on down there. I have just returned from a tour of the area, guided by border county sheriffs, and I am now convinced that the battle for Laredo is as important strategically as the battle of Gettysburg was during the Civil War.

The sheriffs are dismayed by the lack of attention from the national media and the lack of support from the federal government. I intend to do everything in my power to educate the American people and Congress on the severity of this problem. Nuevo Laredo is a ghost town and Laredo will soon become one unless we get serious about dealing with this threat.

During my visit, the Sheriffs gave me the following information:

· A large, but unknown, number of al Qaeda terrorists and Chinese nationals are infiltrating our country virtually anywhere they choose from Brownsville to San Diego.

. One al Qaeda terrorist was held for several weeks after being captured on our border and is currently under FBI custody.

. Paramilitary training camps run by Special Forces officers trained in Nicaragua and Guatemala operate in the open near Matamoras. Terrorists, drug smugglers and killers are trained here within walking distance of Matamoras.

· A large number of Islamic individuals have moved into homes in Nuevo Laredo and are being taught Spanish to assimilate with the local culture.

The border county Sheriffs are the only law enforcement officials capable of responding immediately and effectively to this security threat. They are locally elected and they know the terrain better than anyone, but they are constrained by a lack of federal funding and they do not have the authority to assist the Border Patrol. Volunteers can play a role in this battle by joining neighborhood watch programs, but the narcoterrorists and guerillas have the best weapons that money can buy, so the area is not safe for volunteers. Next week, I will introduce a bill with Congressman Silvestre Reyes that will provide authority and direct federal funding for border county Sheriffs to assist Border Patrol agents in securing our border. Full scale war is underway on our Southern border, and our entire way of life is at risk if we do not win the battle for Laredo.

[Types_with_Fist]

That brings us back to education and publicity which seems to be coming about.

Yes. And it's a beautiful thing to see...:-)

[SwinneySwitch]

"Volunteers can play a role in this battle by joining neighborhood watch programs, but the narcoterrorists and guerillas have the best weapons that money can buy, so the area is not safe for volunteers. Next week, I will introduce a bill with Congressman Silvestre Reyes that will provide authority and direct federal funding for border county Sheriffs to assist Border Patrol agents in securing our border."

How many months or years will it take to be effective, John?

The Minutemen are on the border now, while you catch up!

[Ladysmith]

Conservatives are in favor of growing government to let it prevent private businesses employ who they would.

HUH??!

On the contrary! We would like LESS Big Brother government, LESS crippling taxes, and LESS overbearing regulations so private businesses can afford to stay in the U.S. and hire legal Americans!

[judgeandjury]

Conservatives are in favor of growing government to let it prevent private businesses employ who they would.

We don't need to grow the government at all. We just need to enforce the laws that are already on the books. By the way, it is illegal for a company to knowingly hire an illegal alien. Any company that violates federal immigration laws by knowingly hiring illegal aliens deserves to be punished.

[kittymyrib]

Thanks...I've printed this off and will be sending them to the RNC as a response to all those Republican fund-raising letters I've been getting.