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Guest worker plan being shelved
San Antonio Express-News/Hearst Newspapers ^ | 10/16/2005 | Jennifer A. Dlouhy

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:43:28 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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To: SwinneySwitch; Prime Choice; SweetCaroline; Stellar Dendrite; kellynla; Map Kernow; Chena; ...
Maybe, if he had secured our borders, the president wouldn't have a slump in the polls!

Bingo! And maybe Conservatives would have more "trust" in him when he asks us to simply "trust him" on his nomination of Harriet Miers.

Prime Choice - EXCELLENT!! :)

SweetCaroline - I do the same thing, too!

21 posted on 10/16/2005 12:52:52 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Moiraine; Dan12180; jagusafr; lrb111; Bedford Forrest; MaryD; leapfrog0202; Squantos; BIRDS; ...

Guest Worker Ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off this South Texas/Mexico ping list.


22 posted on 10/16/2005 1:00:38 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

considering the time and expense that it takes for many fine people to become permanent residents and citizens in a legal way..the amnesty programs are an insult and stupidity.
The Republicans will loose mine and a lot of other votes if they don't act to secure our borders and throw out the current crop of illegals. Revising the immirgration laws back to the quality of the applicant, rather than the family relation would be a bonus.


23 posted on 10/16/2005 1:08:27 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: SwinneySwitch
Well, well, well. Maybe I can vote Republican again without holding my nose.

Maybe.

24 posted on 10/16/2005 1:10:26 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Legislation by Rep. J.D. Hayworth, R-Ariz., dubbed the "enforcement first" proposal, which would impose stiffer sanctions on companies that employ undocumented immigrants.

Under his bill, companies could face up to five years in jail and fines of up to $50,000 for each undocumented worker. His legislation also would end the practice of granting citizenship to any child born in the United States, unless at least one parent is in the country legally.

A proposal being drafted by Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., who heads the powerful House Judiciary Committee. His legislation also is expected to focus heavily on enforcement.

Hayworth's proposal sounds a little draconian (what if the illegals have confincing fake documents, and how do you impose a jail sentence on a company?). Judging by his record, though, I'm sure Sensenbrenner's bill will be worth supporting.

25 posted on 10/16/2005 1:18:17 PM PDT by Young Scholar
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To: Black Tooth
What about our unsecured borders, the millions that continue to pour in, and the millions already here. Where is the plan for that?

Rep- Ariz J.D. Hayworth's "enforcement first" proposal provides $50k fines for each illegal and jail time for business owners hiring illegals.

Once a couple business owners are in jail and paying $50k fines, the jobs that bring illegals here will quickly dry up and the problem will take care of itself.

26 posted on 10/16/2005 1:20:17 PM PDT by RJL
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To: SandRat

HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL!


27 posted on 10/16/2005 1:29:44 PM PDT by TimeLord (A whale fetus is a whale; a human fetus is a blob.)
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To: Prime Choice

Great ostrich image there! Funny as heck with the exaggeratedly long neck, head buried in the sand!


28 posted on 10/16/2005 1:30:26 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Conservatives are in favor of growing government to let it prevent private businesses employ who they would.

None of you should complain about outsourcing then after this.

What a shame, I hope the presidents proposals get ressurected...


29 posted on 10/16/2005 1:36:08 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: RJL
Once a couple business owners are in jail and paying $50k fines, the jobs that bring illegals here will quickly dry up and the problem will take care of itself.

There is one big problem here, the largest employer of illegals is not addressed: The Federal Government! Welfare, ADC, WIC, mandating hospitals treat illegals at no charge, etc.

30 posted on 10/16/2005 1:36:27 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: DTogo
WASHINGTON — President Bush's ambitious STUPID plan to give millions of undocumented immigrants a shot at legal temporary work in the United States is dead in Congress.

Let's keep the pressure on to secure our borders and deport illegal aliens.

31 posted on 10/16/2005 1:37:16 PM PDT by planekT (Don't shoot me, I'm only the piano player.)
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To: traviskicks

Does the word illegal mean anything to you?


32 posted on 10/16/2005 1:38:58 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: traviskicks

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) .

8 USC Sec. 1325 (ILLEGAL ENTRY)
8 USC Sec. 1324 (Hiring an ILLEGAL)
8 USC Sec. 1644 ("No local ordinance, rule, or measure shall stop law enforcement officers from enforcement of this section")

8 USC Sec. 1325
Any alien who -

1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or

2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or

3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned not more than two years or both.

(b) Improper time or place, civil penalties - Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or

(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.

(c) Marriage fraud - Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000 or both.

(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud - Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

Section 1324a states: "Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".

Section 1324c states, "All officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws shall have authority to make arrests for a violation of any provision of this section" (affirmed US v Perez-Gonzalez 2002 Fed App 0360, 6th Circ.).

Section 1644, same title states, "No local ordinance, rule, or measure shall stop law enforcement officers from enforcement of this section" (affirmed Southern District Court of NY, US v Rudy Guiliani,1996).


33 posted on 10/16/2005 1:40:26 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Enforce the laws on the books Mr. President!!!!


34 posted on 10/16/2005 1:42:42 PM PDT by dennisw (You shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you - Bob Dylan)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Two hurricanes, two Supreme Court nominees, Republican in-fighting and the president's own slump in the polls have put Bush's "guest worker" initiative on the shelf for this year. Instead of rallying behind the Bush temporary worker proposal, conservative Republicans are about to head in the opposite direction with legislation to crack down on undocumented immigrants and companies that employ them.

Good! I don't trust Bush on this AT ALL, I think it needs to be addressed but I think the people of these United States are taking a good long look at Bush. He's way off base on this one.

Bush is too influenced by his daddy and his rich oil buddies, has no idea how the common people are affected. I believe he means well and his heart is in the right place but if he had to take a step down to the common man, he would learn a thing or two about the commen man (i.e. "voter). He just doesn't know what it's like to be a commoner.

35 posted on 10/16/2005 1:52:59 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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Thanks, I've been wondering what to do with all the RNC solicitations of late, other than to trash them unopened.

You send them back with a note that says "no more money until you've protected the American citizens from invasion".

I'm all for legal immigration from a various populace around the world. An invasion from our southern border is not good for American people.

There will be no civil war, they will take over from within.

36 posted on 10/16/2005 1:55:49 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: SwinneySwitch
I don't believe anything about illegal immigration that comes from the white house. Bush has a track record of encouraging illegal immigration and this pronouncement won't change anything.

He has lost my vote. I suspect the white house is just figuring out that this issue will cost the republicans the next election too. Screw them. They had their chance. Stick a fork in them, they are done.

37 posted on 10/16/2005 1:57:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SwinneySwitch

Secure the borders, boot out the trespassers and put employers of illegals in prison.


38 posted on 10/16/2005 1:59:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this is the United States of America!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

With going on 500,000 people out of work thanks to the Gulf hurricanes, a guest worker program makes little sense.


39 posted on 10/16/2005 2:01:13 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RJL
Rep- Ariz J.D. Hayworth's "enforcement first" proposal provides $50k fines for each illegal and jail time for business owners hiring illegals.

I'm 100% for it, problem is, we don't even enforce laws we have. Thank you President Reagan for the laws we have but we are not willing to enforce them, until then, more unenforceable laws are about as useless as the ones we currently have. Let's just throw some more money and more laws at the system. A useless occupation.

40 posted on 10/16/2005 2:03:45 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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