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Holy war looms over Disney's Narnia epic
Guardian Unlimited ^ | Sunday October 16, 2005 | by Paul Harris

Posted on 10/16/2005 7:34:14 AM PDT by cloud8

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To: SamAdams76
how does C.S. Lewis compare to J.R.R. Tolkien? Are the C.S. Lewis books on par with LOTR or are they more for children?

The Chronicles of Narnia are somewhere in between The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. The genius of C.S. Lewis is how he interweaves deep philosophical questions in a book with simple language accessible to children. Re-reading the book as an adult, I find myself marvelling at how he does it.

61 posted on 10/16/2005 9:27:23 AM PDT by jude24 ("Stupid" isn't illegal - but it should be.)
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To: cloud8

that's an interesting point. i wonder if dark materials was written as an atheist version of narnia. it does have a certain resemblance.


62 posted on 10/16/2005 9:28:11 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: fizziwig
provided Disney doesn't PC it to death.

My cursory following of the story tell me that Jack's stepson has some degree of editorial control. And, iirc, he is a Christian.

63 posted on 10/16/2005 9:33:36 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing. Become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: cloud8
The Narnia books, Pullman said, contained '...a peevish blend of racist, misogynistic and reactionary prejudice; but of love, of Christian charity, [there is] not a trace'.

I just read this to our daughter, who has read ALL the Narnia books, and she's wondering which books Pullman was reading to come up with his ideas. But then she said that you couldn't expect much else from a man who writes Gnostic fantasy. She has read Pullman's trilogy called "His Dark Materials", and he is quite antagonistic toward religion in general, and God in particular.

64 posted on 10/16/2005 9:46:54 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SamAdams76
"Chronicles of Narnia" is definitely for children, but they are very entertaining for adults, as well. We did them as read alouds when our kids were not reading yet, then they read them on their own as they acquired the skill. Our 17 yr. old daughter bought a new set for herself last year because our family copies had deteriorated over the last 20 years.

We are very excited about the movie! WETA Workshop, the group that did the special effects for the LOTR movies is also doing the effects for Narnia. It's looks great in the trailers!!

65 posted on 10/16/2005 9:51:14 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: mtbopfuyn
We're looking forward to BOTH Goblet of Fire and Narnia
66 posted on 10/16/2005 9:52:02 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: cloud8
It m-might offend the Moooslims.

"The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" won't do that, but "The Horse and His Boy" sure would! But we're thinking that it is so much more removed from the central story and characters that it may not be made into a film.

67 posted on 10/16/2005 9:54:53 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

"Quite antagonistic"? That's an understatement. I've never read any "children's book" as full of hate and lies and rabid anti-God idiocy as the last of Pullman's trilogy.


68 posted on 10/16/2005 9:56:13 AM PDT by JenB
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To: t2buckeye

I read them...."That Hideous Strength" could make a tremendous block buster if done right....I read it for the first time 25 years ago and felt as though Lewis was a prophet...now as I look at the world around me I feel as though he truly was...

Keep the faith and watch out for the "Macrobes!"
The inner subtle satire of our entire western heritage was just wonderful through-out the whole book.

May the powers of "DEEP HEAVEN" protect you...and may we all look forward to the day that our "foot wounds" get their final Healing.


69 posted on 10/16/2005 9:58:58 AM PDT by mdmathis6 ("It was not for nothing that you were named Ransom" from CS LEWIS' Perelandra!)
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To: t2buckeye

I truly enjoyed Hideous Strength as a 20 something. Do you think it would still be enjoyable to a 50 something? Thinking of a reread.


70 posted on 10/16/2005 9:59:32 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: t2buckeye

We just had to replace SirKit's copies of The Space Trilogy. We had begun reading it aloud to our two teenagers at night, and the books started falling apart. Of course those were his original ones from the late 60's early 70's in their slipcover.


71 posted on 10/16/2005 10:00:04 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: redgolum

Ping.


72 posted on 10/16/2005 10:01:39 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cloud8

Take a close look at the recent release "Wallace and Gromet" if you want to see Christian bashing.


73 posted on 10/16/2005 10:01:41 AM PDT by devane617
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To: Sam Cree

That sounds like a great idea...for me too!!!!


74 posted on 10/16/2005 10:03:35 AM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: cloud8
For Pullman, who is an avowed atheist and a critic of Lewis, that is bad news.

Pullman believes that Lewis's books portray a version of Christianity that relies on martial combat, outdated fears of sexuality and women, and also portrays a religion that looks a lot like Islam in unashamedly racist terms.

'It's not the presence of Christian doctrine I object to so much as the absence of Christian virtue. The highest virtue, we have on the authority of the New Testament itself, is love, and yet you find not a trace of that in the books,' he said.

This is like Stevie Wonder pontificating on color cordination.

75 posted on 10/16/2005 10:08:39 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: Sam Cree

Have you read "The Great Divorce"?


76 posted on 10/16/2005 10:11:50 AM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: cloud8

Pullman's Golden Compass trilogy is a DELIBERATE effort to convince little children that God is an evil tyrant. It is very skillfully constructed. As an omniverous reader of fantasy, I read the first volume when it came out and rather liked it, although it left me uneasy. The second volume completely repelled me, and I have only read about the third volume, which is where he reveals his real aims--to attack God and persuade gullible children that He is evil.

Harry Potter is, on the whole, innocuous or even good for kids, because although it treats magic it has (so far at least) a sane sense of good vs. evil. The Golden Compass is just plain noxious. No child should be exposed to it.

If Pullman is opposed to the new movie, that's an good sign that the director got it right.


77 posted on 10/16/2005 10:15:55 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Judith Anne
"Have you read "The Great Divorce?"

No I haven't, or even heard of it. Is it by Lewis?

78 posted on 10/16/2005 10:20:21 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: JenB

Yeah, Clare caught on to Pullman's anti-religious attitudes very quickly. She read the trilogy several years ago.


79 posted on 10/16/2005 10:32:18 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Sam Cree
"The Great Divorce" is by Lewis.

Take a look at his other works here.

80 posted on 10/16/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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