Posted on 10/15/2005 5:17:38 PM PDT by Torie
ASSIMILATION AND ITS MEANING. The End of Gay Culture Andrew Sullivan
For ... two decades, I have spent much of every summer in the small resort of Provincetown, at the tip of CapeCod. It has long attracted artists, writers, the offbeat, and the bohemian; and, for many years now, it has been to gay America what Oak Bluffs in Martha's Vineyard is to black America: a place where a separate identity essentially defines a separate place. No one bats an eye if two men walk down the street holding hands, or if a lesbian couple pecks each other on the cheek, or if a drag queen dressed as Cher careens down the main strip on a motor scooter. It's a place, in that respect, that is sui-generis. Except that it isn't anymore. As gay America has changed, so, too, has Provincetown. In a microcosm of what is happening across this country, its culture is changing.
Some of these changes are obvious. A real-estate boom has made Provincetown far more expensive than it ever was, slowly excluding poorer and younger visitors and residents. Where, once, gayness trumped class, now the reverse is true. Beautiful, renovated houses are slowly outnumbering beach shacks, once crammed with twenty-something, hand-to-mouth misfits or artists. The role of lesbians in the town's civic and cultural life has grown dramatically, as it has in the broader gay world. The faces of people dying from or struggling with aids have dwindled to an unlucky few. The number of children of gay couples has soared, and, some weeks, strollers clog the sidewalks. Bar life is not nearly as central to socializing as it once was. Men and women gather on the beach, drink coffee on the front porch of a store, or meet at the Film Festival or Spiritus Pizza.
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Andrew Sullivan (born August 10, 1963) is a British-American blogger and journalist, known both for his heterodox personal-political identity (HIV-positive, gay, libertarian/conservative and Catholic) and for his pioneering efforts in the field of weblog journalism. Sullivan has described himself as being a South Park Republican, a phrase he coined in 2001 and which has gained considerable currency since.
In addition, Mr. Sullivan is an important gay and lesbian advocate. He is a popular speaker at major universities and civic organizations in the U.S. and a frequent guest on many national news and political commentary television shows in the United States and Europe. As a side note.. There are a few "South Park Republicans" masqurading as "libertarians" here on the FR.
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Sorry, but it is the gay activists who are the intolerant ones who hate traditional religious believers. The gay activists want to use government to impose their moral beliefs on society and everybody else through gay activist ideological indoctrination in public schools and court cases imposing civil same sex "marriage" (essentially government imprimatur and promotion of homosexual activity). People have a right to believe homosexual activity is immoral, and the government should be neutral on the topic, not promote and impose the gay activist ideology on the public.
Thanks!
Gay culture would be a great thing for Tom Wolfe to take on.
I hate it when A. Sullivan is described as a "conservative". He is not. He is a gay activist pure and simple. He voted for Kerry. He vilifies Bush. I believe everything he says or does revolves around his gay activist ideology. Even his earlier support for the war on terror and Iraq is, I believe, like Christopher Hitchens, based on a hatred of Islam, which is even harsher on homosexuality than Christianity.
We don't give a damn what they say, what they want, how they want to be treated, how they think they are mistreated, or how they want to be "accepted" as "mainstream"
In short, most of us want them to STFU and just go away.
Try this link from wikipedia.org
The End of Gay Culture
The interesting thing will be to see how far and where religious America (a very religious place, as sui generis place for a rich Western society) and gay America (as it were) evolve, and whether or not a comfort zone for both can be reached as a modus vivendi.
I think you are right. I don't think gayness per se is an issue with most people.
Whether or not people see homosexuality as "normal" or not is really not the issue. I think alot of what is clearly "abnormal" is tolerated. Look at the mentally ill, no longer locked in hospitals. Some function and go about their lives without much taking note of them. People are open about things they never were before. Handicapped people are regularly in the work place. Retarded people are in the work place doing menial jobs. There seems to be less rejection of what is "abnormal" or what was regarded as shameful fifty years ago.
with links at wikipedia.
Scandals In May 2001, Village Voice columnist Michael Musto revealed that Sullivan had anonymously posted advertisements for "bareback" sex (anal sex and/or oral sex without a condom) on America Online and the now-defunct website barebackcity.com. Subsequently, the Italian-American journalist and activist, Michelangelo Signorile, wrote about the scandal in a front-page article in a New York gay magazine, LGNY, igniting a storm of controversy.
In the advertisements, Sullivan noted that he was HIV-positive. Sullivan's critics have argued that it was hypocritical of Sullivan to engage in this kind of sexual activity while simultaneously arguing against gay sexual promiscuity; they claim that the vision of gay sexuality presented in Sullivan's writing is at odds with the activities he was revealed to be engaging in. They also charge that because Sullivan was HIV-positive, it was unsafe for him to engage in sex without a condom. Sullivan's critics argue that it is unfair for Sullivan to criticize Bill Clinton's sexual indiscretions as "reckless" while engaging in unprotected sex himself.
Sullivan's defenders respond that he only had bareback sex with consenting adults who were also HIV-positive. According to Sullivan, this significantly reduced the risk inherent in his behavior, and he has derided what he called a "thin reed of evidence" of the existence of "reinfection," which, according to some medical experts, heightens the destruction caused by the virus. His supporters have also argued that it was a violation of his privacy to publish information about his sex life. Sullivan has called the scandal "sexual McCarthyism". Sullivan supporters also argue that those who revealed the details about his sex life were motivated by a desire for payback, because they disagreed with his politics and his comments about the gay community. His detractors respond that his hypocrisy was reason enough to publish the stories. In Sullivan's book, "Love Undetectable", published in 1999, Sullivan wrote "Although I never publicly defended promiscuity, I never publicly attacked it. I attempted to avoid the subject, in part because I felt, and often still feel, unable to live up to the ideals I really hold."
Sullivan's journalistic ethics were called into question, when he announced that he would be accepting a sponsorship to write his blog The Daily Dish from the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, the lobby for the industry that he credited with saving his life, but which has also been criticized for its practices in AIDS-affected areas of the Third World. The controversy lay in Sullivan's initial refusal to disclose the relationship in writing outside his blog, even though much of that often touches on drug manufacturers and their policies in poor countries. He dropped the sponsorship in the ensuing uproar.
Hey! That's pretty cool! Your tagline made me think of the question, and it was like reverso day! Reverse psych I guess.
P'town used to be a mecca for fishermen- maybe it will happen again.
Then why is "Gay" perverted marriage such a hot button issue in society today?
Actually, they buy rundown properties, renovate them, and cash out. It's good business.
Not far from being back in the closet is it.
Evidently poor Andrew never realized that going all the way back to the '60's (and perhaps prior) true real estate "plums" have always been the ones owned previously by gay couples who remodeled and redecorated them with loving care.
Even remaining silent, one can always turn their backs on homosexuals, anytime one is unfortunate enough to encounter them. Oh how they hate being ignored.
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