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To: Mr. Rational
You aren't rational. But that's ok.

Mr. White said the movement is not asking for special accommodations - including police protection - or to close down streets. If city officials try to ban the march, he said the group will take them to court.

Police said the problem in North Toledo apparently began over a dispute between Bronson Avenue resident Thomas Szych, who is white, and his neighbor, who is black, about a fence.

Mr. Szych was named in the socialist movement's press release because of his problems with gang members. Mr. Szych received a threatening flyer that indicated it was from the Dexter gang and he said he has had vandalism to his property.

Chief Navarre said Mr. Szych, his brother, and his father have made many complaints and reports about gang activity in the neighborhood. Officials aren't receiving complaints and reports from other residents, he said.

Mr. Szych said the police response to his complaints has been poor. Chief Navarre said police have devoted a large amount of resources to Mr. Szych's concerns.

"The officers following up on the complaints find them to be exaggerated," the chief said.

Mr. Ford said Mr. Szych's father made derogatory comments about two African-American officers, describing them as "gorillas with guns."

Mr. Szych, who bought a handgun for protection but had it taken for safekeeping by police after he allegedly waved it at youths, said he is not a part of the socialist movement and did not ask for the group's help.

Mr. White confirmed other local residents contacted the group, but would not identify them.

Neo-Nazis planning march in North Toledo Group says blacks victimizing whites Navarre

THE TOLEDO AFFAIR

There are other sites with info but they are hate sites.

754 posted on 10/15/2005 8:10:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Did you not like your own words repeated back to you?

Why question my rationality, then clip an article from a paper?

The Nazis have a right to assemble for legal purposes regardless of motivation(limited only in extreme cases).

Others have an obligation to allow them to do so. (Limited to even more extreme conditions).

None of those conditions were met in this case.

You have not clarified in the tiniest bit why you think it is acceptable to expect people of a certain ethnic background to not conform to the same responsibilities as the rest of us in this society.

Don't clip an article. Don't name call. Support your statements.

The evil Nazis did not cause the riots. The expectation - and almost acceptance - that blacks would riot - rather than obey the law and allow a peaceful rally to occur - is what caused the riots. Listen to the spin - people discussing "who was responsible for the riots" - as if there is some complexity here. There is no complexity. The rioters are responsible for the riots.

The issue is implanting in their minds that they are responsible for their actions. Part of that is reminding everyone else that no one is responsible for these people's actions but themselves. We need to expect better.

Expecting better may not be rational, but it is the right thing to do.


808 posted on 10/15/2005 9:18:13 PM PDT by Mr. Rational (God gave me a brain and expects me to use it)
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