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God and global warming
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 15, 2005

Posted on 10/15/2005 3:16:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Science and religion may differ on how we got here, but increasingly there is little disagreement on where we are headed if we don't begin to address the causes of climate change. Scientists have long warned of the dangers of global warming attributed to our profligate use of fossil fuels. Now, one of the nation's most influential religious groups is delivering the same message, if based on an alternative standard of proof.

"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my conversion to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the National Association of Evangelicals, told the environmental magazine Grist. "I was at a conference in Oxford where Sir John Houghton, an evangelical scientist, was presenting evidence of shrinking ice caps, temperatures tracked for millennia through ice-core data, increasing hurricane intensity, drought patterns, and so on. I realized all at once, with sudden awe, that climate change is a phenomenon of truly biblical proportions."

The 30-million-member association, which Cizik says is one of the strongest voices in the Republican Party, isn't just talking about global warming. It is taking action. Calling the doctrine "creation care," the association is conducting a scripture-based campaign to convince its members that they are "commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth."

Cizik doesn't rule out formal collaboration with secular environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. And the association is preparing a position paper on global warming policy.

For his part, Cizik is practicing what he preaches. "We sold our RV, which got about five miles per gallon, and bought a Prius, which gets about 10 times that," he told Grist. "I oughta get a commission from Toyota for the number of people I've converted to the Prius."

Soon, there will be no haven for those who continue to ignore the environmental challenges ahead.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; communism; environment; environmentalism; envirowhackos; globalwarming; greens; newage; religion; religiousleft; socialism; watermelons
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my conversion to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the National Association of Evangelicals,

Well, at least he admits to one thing in a backhanded way. Both conversions are based on faith.

Micheal Crichton has a great speech on this very subject on his website

21 posted on 10/15/2005 4:28:46 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: son of caesar

The left has made "smoke and mirror" arguments into a fine science.

I imagine if someone is destroying a piece of the Earth for personal profit, he's more than likely breaking one or more of the Ten Commandments and will be dealt with on those "violations."


22 posted on 10/15/2005 4:29:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Popman

Micheal Crichton's book "State of Fear" was excellent.


23 posted on 10/15/2005 4:31:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Enviromentalism was created by Commies to destroy Capitalism. That is a fact.


24 posted on 10/15/2005 4:35:16 AM PDT by rambo316 (America is a Republic and the U.S. Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Enviromentalism was created by Commies to destroy Capitalism. That is a fact.


25 posted on 10/15/2005 4:35:48 AM PDT by rambo316 (America is a Republic and the U.S. Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Micheal Crichton's book "State of Fear" was excellent.

I gave my copy to my son's fiancee, a politically clueless, but very sweet person. She used to get mad when I mocked the environmental mental midgets who actually buy into their pablum

She no longer defends them. She is being turned slowly

His speech on his website on this subject is excellent.

26 posted on 10/15/2005 4:37:09 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: rambo316

it is truly revealing to study the original doctrines of communists. you are very correct, environmentalism was indeed one of their spearheads. since you seem to know about this, i wont bore you with any other spearheads they created to harm basically the usa. actually, just listen to one of hillarys speeches and you have the whole communist enchilada right there in good english.


27 posted on 10/15/2005 4:41:33 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: nmh

People who think they can control or even influence the climate are displaying human arrogance, a lot like a flea thinking about attacking an elephant. Maybe science is today's Tower of Babel.


28 posted on 10/15/2005 4:42:45 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

29 posted on 10/15/2005 4:44:25 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Global warming is pork for scientists. Now I see the Evangelicals are trying to milk it also.


30 posted on 10/15/2005 4:48:08 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

"Shouldn't they be more concerned for men's souls?"

They should. This is one more example of the "red herring"; distraction from real issues by false issues.


31 posted on 10/15/2005 4:48:23 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
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To: son of caesar

Another Freeper's intelligence can never bore me. Feel free to discuss it more. I just stated the simple fact but you stated the fact more eloquently. God bless.


32 posted on 10/15/2005 4:48:39 AM PDT by rambo316 (America is a Republic and the U.S. Constitution guarantees a Republican form of Government)
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To: backhoe
Hey Good Morning!

Ban the sun.

How's Alpha Centori doing? Maybe we could head over there.

33 posted on 10/15/2005 5:02:08 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee
Good morning to you, neighbor.

Just out of curiousity, google "mass of the solar system," and you will discover stuff like this:

Solar System Open this result in new window

... It ( the Sun ) contains more than 99.8% of the total mass of the Solar System (Jupiter contains most of the rest). ...

That's right, all the rest of the mass of the solar system- us, inner planets, gas giants that are almost big enough to be stars, the asteroid belt, the cosmic dust- is .2%

That tells me the Sun is the master controller... as I suspected nearly 40 years ago upon learning this obscure but telling fact.

34 posted on 10/15/2005 5:14:48 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: RoadTest

They don't care for Paradise in the next life - they just want make this life one, and they will fail miserably!


35 posted on 10/15/2005 5:37:54 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes we are stewards of our God-given environment. Yes there is global warming. But global warming is the result of the Sun being hotter at this time, and nothing else. Just as Mars is experiencing global warming, so is the Earth. What do they have in common? Ans. the Sun.

We may very well be on the edge of a new ice age. This nonsense about green house gases is nothing more than paganism and liberal self guilt. Why sacrifice maidens to the earth god when developed nations can sacrifice their economies? Fools all!


36 posted on 10/15/2005 5:43:17 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The only time leftists mention God or the Bible is to advance their socialist/Marxist agenda.


37 posted on 10/15/2005 5:44:01 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Member of Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: nmh

Well there WILL be global warming... "and the elements shall melt with a fervent heat"


38 posted on 10/15/2005 5:44:07 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Cvengr
This may be an interpretation that adds or deletes from the meaning of the Book of Revelation. Here are several verses preceding and one after the quotation from the Bible.

I'd agree, that take on the verse certainly does not look right in context. "Those that destroy the earth" seems to be talking about the forces of evil in the world as a whole.

39 posted on 10/15/2005 5:47:00 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Sertorius
Makes me want to go out and buy an suv.

I'd drive a tank if they'd let me.

40 posted on 10/15/2005 5:48:57 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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