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Mayor Should Run WTC Development
1010wins ^ | Oct 13, 2005 3:15 pm US/Eastern | 1010wins

Posted on 10/14/2005 6:51:07 AM PDT by Calpernia

Gov. George Pataki defended his leadership in the redevelopment of lower Manhattan on Thursday as a new poll showed that New York City voters overwhelmingly believe Mayor Michael Bloomberg, not Pataki, should call the shots at ground zero.

A Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday found that 65 percent of city voters believe Bloomberg should have the major role in decisions about the redevelopment of the trade center site. Only 18 percent said they believe Pataki should make the decisions _ despite the fact that the site is owned by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, not the city. The governor of each state appoints six members to the agency's board of commissioners.

Pataki, talking to reporters after attending a police ceremony in Manhattan, said Thursday, ``I think there's a great difference between the public's perception and the reality.''

``I understand the public, I understand they're looking for immediate construction, cranes and activity, but we're going now from the memorial concept to engineering design,'' he said. ``It's not something, until there are cranes in the air, where the public will see that actual change, but the progress is being made, it is going forward appropriately.''

Pataki acknowledged that the redesign of the Freedom Tower for security reasons had created a setback, but said construction on West Street could be done two years earlier than expected, and work was beginning on the Santiago Calatrava-designed transportation hub, as was deconstruction of the Deutsche Bank building.

``We're getting it done right, that's the most important thing, but we are also doing it very much in a timely manner,'' the governor said.

Bloomberg on Wednesday said redevelopment at ground zero was going too slowly and that his administration would become more involved.

The mayor cited several accomplishments in the revitalization of lower Manhattan, including retaining 100,000 jobs and lowering the commercial vacancy rate, but he also expressed frustration at the pace of the redevelopment.

``Current projections show the site not being built out until 2015, and that's just too long,'' Bloomberg said.

While he said the governor ``is doing a great job,'' Bloomberg said, ``I think it's getting to the point now where the city just has more than interest, and can have more to do.''

Despite the public's apparent lack of confidence in the way Pataki is handling the redevelopment at ground zero, 47 percent of the poll's respondents said development at the site is going very well or somewhat well. Forty-two percent say it is going somewhat badly or very badly.

And despite ongoing controversies over the design of the Freedom Tower and the presence of cultural institutions at the site, 66 percent of city voters say they are confident that ground zero can be fully restored within 10 years from today, while 25 percent are not.

``Even with all the fuss about the World Trade Center, two-thirds of New Yorkers think it will be put together again within a decade,'' said Maurice Carroll, director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

The ground zero poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percentage points. Quinnipiac surveyed 1,452 New York City registered voters Oct. 4-10.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; groundzero; ifc; lmdc; pataki; portauthority; wtc

1 posted on 10/14/2005 6:51:09 AM PDT by Calpernia
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To: Velveeta; firebrand; Fedora; Blurblogger; Coleus; backhoe; cyborg; wtc911; hineybona; Wuli; ...

Next move, now they are going to try to get Bloomberg control over WTC redesign.

Bloomberg was supportive of teh IFC.


2 posted on 10/14/2005 6:52:05 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
A decade?!

That's outrageous.

Shows how lame Pataki really is, that Bloomberg looks so much better by comparison.

3 posted on 10/14/2005 6:53:40 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball

Pataki put an end to the IFC.

Bloomberg supports it.

If Bloomberg gets control, IFC will be back on the table.


4 posted on 10/14/2005 6:57:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Background



THE SOROS-IZATION OF GROUND ZERO
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418112/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422800/posts
"New York 9-11 Memorial will include museums on Indian genocide, black slavery genocide, more"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1424158/posts
THE ROLE OF CHARITIES AND NGO’S IN THE FINANCING OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1441855/posts
Take Back The Memorial


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450994/posts
9/11 Families Boycotting Memorial Fund

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1493116/posts
Governor Pataki Says No to IFC at Ground Zero!


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1426833/posts
Rally to Take Back the 9/11 Memorial--After-Action Report


5 posted on 10/14/2005 6:58:12 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_127/freedomcenter.html

Freedom Center decision proves democracy works

By Rachel Snyder

When the announcement came last month that the International Freedom Center had been scrapped, I felt, if not outright elation, at least a sense of satisfaction. I believed it to be an ill-conceived idea and was happy to see it go. Obviously, not every single person was pleased by its demise. On this page last week, David Stanke angrily condemned this decision. I take umbrage with his mischaracterization of my and many others’ motives.

Mr. Stanke erroneously asserts that those of us involved with the campaign to throw out the I.F.C. were all relatives of people killed on 9/11 and were using this debate as a means for gaining more control over the W.T.C. site in order to push an anti-development agenda. I myself am not a relative of a victim, nor are some others who participated in this campaign, and I could hardly be described as anti-development. I have spoken out at every opportunity about the need to rebuild all of the lost office space at the W.T.C., and I am among the first to object to any suggestion that the site be turned into a graveyard.

I believe that no memorial could be complete without restoring the World Trade Center and the surrounding communities to the places of life they were on Sept. 10, 2001. Rebuilding would be the best kind of memorial – a living memorial. As we all know, there are some 9/11 family members who in the year following the attacks were very vocal about their desire to see the entire site remain free of commercial and cultural development. Undoubtedly some of them still hold that view, but the media’s portrayal of them as being of one mind when it comes to rebuilding has been misleading from the start. Were Mr. Stanke to ask them, he would likely find that the families have a range of opinions as varied as what one would find on the streets of Lower Manhattan.

At a rally I attended on Sept. 10, several of the speakers emphasized that what we were opposed to wasn’t the existence of the I.F.C., but its location. If its supporters truly feel such an institution would be a valued asset to this city, they are free to build it somewhere else. Objecting to its placement, which was determined by a state-controlled process, was itself an act of freedom. The First Amendment gives us the right to build it, not a mandate to do so. It also gives those of us who were against it the right to use all legal forms of speech to sway official opinion. So we signed petitions, wrote op-ed articles and attended rallies, and because the majority of us who were involved with this debate were against the I.F.C., our elected officials eventually gave in to our demands. This is exactly the way a representative democracy is supposed to work. No one can seriously claim that this incident in any way diminishes our democratic principles.

Mr. Stanke is correct when he states that no memorial could ever tell the complete story of Sept. 11. This is exactly why we need a museum that focuses solely on 9/11 and its aftermath, rather than one that treats it as only one in a long series of historic events. I have a number of relatives in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, site of the turning point in our Civil War and one of the most popular tourist attractions in the country. The people who visit that town’s historic sites aren’t looking for an exposition on how the battle fits into a global march toward freedom.

Visitors to the World Trade Center need a place where they can learn about what happened on Sept. 11. A museum should be built that tries to provide visitors with a sense of the enormity of what happened.

I want visitors to see images of the neighborhood I love covered in dust and debris. I want them to hear the stories of survivors and realize that tens of thousands of people, some of them young schoolchildren, were forced to run for their lives, and have suffered greatly as a result. I want them to know that countless Lower Manhattan residents and workers were displaced from their communities for weeks, months and in some cases even years. I want them to understand that at least half of the rescue workers who gave so much of themselves on that pile of wreckage searching for survivors continue to suffer from chronic physical ailments that may remain with them permanently. I want them to look at the faces of the lives that were stolen that day and to see that they represented a beautiful mosaic of humanity that encompassed every age, race, class, religion and ethnicity.

We can’t tell every story, but we can tell enough stories to give our future generations some idea of just how many lives were forever changed by the attacks. Building a museum that treated 9/11 as just one event out of many on the W.T.C. site would have greatly diminished the power of these stories.

Ultimately, it matters little what any of us think of the International Freedom Center, for the issue has been settled once and for all. But where do we go from here? Should we continue to segregate ourselves and our priorities, treating the memorial and redevelopment as two completely separate and competing issues? Or should we instead try to work together and understand each other’s concerns, realizing that all of us –- victims’ relatives, survivors, Downtowners, 9/11 rescue workers and everyone else who was affected by the attacks –- share a valid investment in the outcome of the rebuilding process?

Throughout this process, the questions seem to have been about determining who had the most right to decide how certain things were done. But if we accept the premise that all of us have suffered as a result of the attacks and all of us have an equal right to be a part of every aspect of the rebuilding process then the questions become: How can we, as one community, balance the need to both honor the past and build for the future? How do we make compromises that best accommodate our shared needs and goals? The debate over the I.F.C. could offer all of us a wonderful opportunity to have an open and honest discussion of our priorities, but this can only work if we all commit to truly listening to each other’s point of view. Making sweeping generalizations based on misconceptions about people’s motives will only serve to further complicate an already messy process and may alienate potential allies. In the matter of the I.F.C., Mr. Stanke and I will probably have to agree to disagree. I would only ask that he, and all of us, try to understand why different individuals feel the way they do, and use that understanding to find solutions that work the best for all of us.

Rachel Snyder is a member of the Coalition for New Twin Towers and has worked near the World Trade Center site.


6 posted on 10/14/2005 7:10:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Seems the 'LMDC' is not going to give up on this.




LMDC Meets For First Time Since Freedom Center Scrapped


The Lower Manhattan Development Corporation's Board of Directors met Thursday for the first time since a controversial piece of the World Trade Center rebuilding plan was scrapped, and board members vowed they would not let it happen again.

“What happened in this debacle of the last several months absolutely cannot happen again,” LMDC board member Roland Betts said Thursday.

Betts was talking about the saga of the International Freedom Center, which in May was announced as a tenant of the Cultural Center planned for the WTC site to be devoted to the human struggle for freedom and tolerance.

Last week, Governor George Pataki kicked the IFC out of the facility, responding to family groups, elected officials and others who charged it was not appropriate, and that the center should be devoted more to 9/11.

Some board members asked Pataki and Mayor Michael Bloomberg to basically reassure them that the LMDC is not wasting its time as it works to rebuild the site.

“I cannot and do not understand how we can go forward unless we know we are going to be able to do our job,” said board member Madelyn Wills.

“I'm aggravated about the substance of the attack on the idea of free thinking and free expression on the subject of what happened on 9/11,” added fellow board member Tom Johnson.

Pataki's office responded by saying only: “The governor respects the work of the LMDC board and continues to view their role as central to the rebuilding efforts."

But family members attending the session say they expected board members to be upset after the decision.

“What strikes me is that they don't understand or they don't seem to accept the fact that a 9/11 museum and memorial are cultural institutions,” said Patricia Reilly, who lost her sister on 9/11.

“Whether one agreed or disagreed with the fact that the IFC would have made unpatriotic statements, the fact that there would be debate and discussion in the close proximity and context of a sacred memorial on that quadrant was where our real hearts were,” added Charles Wolf, whose wife died on 9/11.

The next step in this process is trying to figure out just what will be inside the cultural center at the WTC site. But as it moves forward, this issue will continue to be an emotional one.


7 posted on 10/14/2005 7:16:10 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks.
Have to keep an eye on this.


8 posted on 10/14/2005 7:45:38 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Calpernia

How about a system in which the owner (or in this case lessee) of land gets to decide what is developed on it? Sounds radical, I know...


9 posted on 10/14/2005 7:53:10 AM PDT by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: Phocion

The site is owned by the Port Authority of NY and NJ.

Most of us are the owners. We pay the taxes to Port Authority of NY and NJ.

Sounds radical. I know.


10 posted on 10/14/2005 8:06:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

It would not surprise me a bit if in the depths of the origins of this "poll" we find some fellow travelers with the backers, supporters or founders of the IFC.

It would also not surprise me if that, the IFC, is what the purpose of this poll, and others like it to come, is really all about.

It all makes me want to see Pataki run again, though he is not my favorite GOPer. Frankly, I would help him if I thought it was necessary to keep the IFC out.


11 posted on 10/14/2005 8:18:42 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Calpernia

The problem is that Bloomberg will listen to the New York City snobs who read the Times every morning and believe they know the last word on all things cultural. After all, they are his friends and neighbors. What should be kept foremost in mind is that the Trade Center site is a place of national significance and national mourning, and not a New York City plaything.


12 posted on 10/14/2005 8:24:41 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Wuli

I would be MORE surprised if what you just said wasn't true.

I'm not opposed to going out on a limb and saying it is a FACT that these polls were skewed with IFC supporters.


13 posted on 10/14/2005 8:25:06 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

The Port Authority leased the site to Larry Silverstein for 99 years, granting Silverstein control over site development. He also controls all the insurance money from the destruction of the WTC. There's no doubt that Silverstein has mismanaged things at the site, and by letting the LMDC and local and state authorities have a say (mostly because he wants subsidies), he's invited way too many cooks to this broth. But the land is still his to develop, at least until the government finds a legal way to grab his land and steal the billions in insurance money from him (which they are looking to do, trust me).


14 posted on 10/14/2005 8:50:00 AM PDT by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: Phocion

Then if our tax payer money stops going to the site...that is one thing. BUT, lease holder or not, it is still owned by the Port Authority of NY/NJ.


15 posted on 10/14/2005 8:52:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

the city has no role in the Port Authority - so I do not think it will happen.


16 posted on 10/16/2005 8:50:18 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Calpernia

as you said, they are not giving up.


17 posted on 10/16/2005 8:51:44 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Good to hear. Thank you.


18 posted on 10/16/2005 9:04:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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