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Tony Medley ^ | 10/08/05 | Tony Medley

[King Prout]

thought it was the VeNona Project, mese'f

[King Prout]

see #20 - I'ze ejoo-kaybull

[nunya bidness]

1) It's the ''Venona'' project and the ''Venona'' papers, not ''Verona'', which codeword term dates to the 1940s. The release of the KGB's Venona documents in 1994-1996 merely confirmed what every non-Soviet sympathiser knew; there were a shjtpotful of Soviet agents in every European and N. American government...practically none of which have been brought to book even yet today. Possibly because of apologists such as yourself, but who knows for certain, eh?

I am not the author. And I resent your accusation.

2) Stalin didn't starve the kulaks (small private landowners/farmers)except some of those in the Ukraine (see below). He simply liquidated the Great Russian and White Russian, and Don kulaks if they refused to surrender their land to the kolkhozi, the so-called collective farms. The people Stalin forcibly starved were the Ukranian people, for numerous reasons, not least of which was the enthusiam of the Ukranians for the German invasion of Russia in WW I, plus their firm loyalty to the Orthodox church. Recommend you see the excellent and brutally accurate documentary film ''Winter of Despair'', made decades ago, and which (of course) the LSM wouldn't dream of allowing the American people to view.

Some of those in the Ukraine? How about 4 million? Is that enough?

3) Stalin ranks in second place as the greatest mass murderer in history. Mao killed at least 3 of his citizens for every one that Stalin killed (or caused to be killed, same thing net-net-net). Pol Pot, btw, holds the all-time record for the highest percentage of citizens deliberately killed by their government.

Obviously you've got a thing for Uncle Joe but the point of this thread is that Communism was the greatest genocidal threat that has ever hidden behind an ideology. Or is 100 million just a statistic?

[Rastus]

This is a good bookmark to have:

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1996/vo12no18/vo12no18_mccarthy.htm

[nunya bidness]

Just a suggestion but you might want to take the girls for a walk up to the Kodak in March. You never know, they might get a piece of this pretty boy on his way in.

[SAJ]

''Some'' refers to SOME of the kulaks in Ukraina. Stalin wasn't concerned with whether any given Ukrainian was a kulak or was not. He starved some landowners, no doubt, but summarily executed many more than he starved. His policy regards Ukraina was ''The state will control this renegade oblast ('district' or 'area'; Stalin had no use for the clear historical concept that Ukraina was a legitimate nation in its own right). It holds little more than reactionaries and those who set themselves against the narod ('nation', more or less).

You're not the author, eh? OK. Next time, make it clear, boyo -- because, even after reviewing the thread, your first commentary makes it sound as if you were, or at least were supporting the contentions made in the article. Resent away, by my guest; that's always the purview of the incompetent.

If you think I've a ''thing'' for Joseph Stalin (how DARE you, you bleeding bozo!), you're an outright effing moron, and obviously you can neither read nor think. Stalin was inarguably one of the half dozen most evil men to ever walk the planet, you stupid sod.

And, once again, do **try** at least to pay attention to fact, as opposed to your ego and your opinion. Doubtless difficult, but you might be able to manage if you try. Here's one little tip: when you post an article with OBVIOUS falsities, you might consider pointing them out. Failing to do so, as you have so badly done here, indicates your support. ''Silence gives consent'', as Cicero noted more than 2000 yrs ago.

Ta-ta.

[King Prout]

thanks.

[SAJ]

No quarrel at all, King. I wonder what the poster is all about, though (shrug).

[dollar_dog]

Political agenda in black and white: George Clooney's campaign contributions

Facts are facts, the guy is a leftist.

[Howlin]

LOL!

[King Prout]

at the risk of making this a 3-way pissing contest, may I respectfully suggest that each of you has misunderstood the other, in part or in toto, and said misunderstandings are leading both of you into a totally pointless episode of sturm und drang for no damned reason at all?

come on, we're better than this.

[nunya bidness]

''Silence gives consent'', as Cicero noted more than 2000 yrs ago.

"Whatever", me noting in 2005.

For someone who's been here since 2001 you should know by now to look at the format of the thread and the citations to know who the author is and what the position of the poster of the article is by his own comments.

Otherwise, have a nice day.

[SAJ]

Postulating coherence in said presentation, you're quite right; it's no trick at all.

[SAJ]

A very sensible view, King. Well said!

[nunya bidness]

come on, we're better than this.

I did say have a nice day.

Also I'll make it clear, I think all Communists are the lowest form of human life and that includes their red-diaper-doper-babies.

[nunya bidness]

It was a misunderstanding.

Take care.

[Lancey Howard]

Great post! Today it's easy to forget that all those decades ago CBS had credibility and self-respect, and even engaged in real investigative journalism.

By the way, about 15 or 20 years ago I used to regularly watch reruns of "See It Now". I believe they were shown on a PBS station. The shows generally had Murrow interviewing famous people, and a couple of the shows I remember had him interviewing newly elected Senator John F. Kennedy and his bride, and another had Harpo Marx (who, of course, answered questions without speaking).

I watched the shows mostly to see cool snapshots of history, but I wasn't especially impressed by the famous Murrow. He was pretty good, but I suspect that history has hyped him up way beyond what he was.

[Lancey Howard]

Excellent!

[Cindy]

Yep, the author put a lot of thought and research into his article.