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1 posted on 10/13/2005 5:15:37 PM PDT by blam
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Interesting. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 5:24:43 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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I don't believe in Elvis or dark matter. The latter is regular matter at great distance, with properties as yet not understood by current theories.


3 posted on 10/13/2005 5:24:45 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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Let me be the first: Bush's Fault for Crisis in the Cosmos.
4 posted on 10/13/2005 5:28:58 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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a spectrum of the galaxy—the only sure way to measure its distance

Right there is the origin of the contradiction. All Hubble or Einstein said about it was that they didn't know of another consistent mechanism to explain the Hubble redshift.

5 posted on 10/13/2005 5:37:07 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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Faith......

I can't see these "distant" old galaxies or stars or "cold dark matter" but I have "Faith" that what they(these men of science) say is true. The equations and the little marks on the LCD screens show what "is" out there...and I have "faith" that what these men and machines tell me is "true".

So a man came to earth, died and rose again...witnessed by many and did so after he said he would...but if you "have faith" in that story you are labeled a kook.....or worse.

This story and the way it is stretching to explain the universe is funny. I've met several physicists and during their education they became Christians.... it's really funny. Because the more in depth they went into the theoretical aspects of physics the more questions of randomness and organization of particles, electrons, protons, neutrons, orbitals, and the interactions in order to create "life" even a single helix RNA virus is so unimaginable when you look at vastness of space that they said they couldn't help but believe in God.

I've looked at the curl of hair and the gentle folds of my daughter's ear, then looked up at the sky and the stars and thought about how "random" collisions could create one from the other.... and I came away a Christian..... a poor one, not deserving of the gifts that have been given me, but a Christian none the less.

I'd like the Freepers that may have doubts about their belief in God to read this article and think of how you stand on the subject of randomness or divine intervention.

of course this is only my opinion and I could be wrong....

7 posted on 10/13/2005 5:40:46 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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ping


8 posted on 10/13/2005 6:17:03 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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I love these articles.   Ping me if find something like this again soon.
9 posted on 10/13/2005 6:26:55 PM PDT by expat_panama
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Maybe it's a rival "National League" Cosmos gearing up for the big game.


12 posted on 10/13/2005 6:51:55 PM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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I'm getting very tired of cosmologists. They construct tentative theories to explain observatrional data, bandy them around as if they're the absolute truth, and then profess they're in a crisis when (almost inevitably) something doesn't fit.

A respectable field of science, if that's what they aim to be, could use about 90% less melodrama.

14 posted on 10/13/2005 7:41:01 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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Good article Blam, Thank You.

Wolf
35 posted on 10/13/2005 10:16:39 PM PDT by RunningWolf (tag line limbo)
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Maybe this thread has something to do with it..

Dark Matter: Invisible, Mysterious and Perhaps Nonexistent

Not sure if I've got it right, but the idea seems to be that instead of dark matter, galaxy formation acts more like swirls in a fluid medium.. ( which to me, with the reference to "angular velocity" would indicate that "spin" is a component in the formation process. )

"If" the universe was denser, more compact, and the attendant matter acted somewhat like the fluid described, then early formation of stars and galaxies may very well have been not only possible, but far more possible than it is presently, given the expansion of that original mass..

Anyway, that's my theory... well, his theory, and my theory on his theory..

38 posted on 10/14/2005 3:27:59 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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Hmmm.


43 posted on 10/14/2005 4:47:12 AM PDT by hershey
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I wonder if the astronomers are taking the inertial reference frame into account when calculating the ages of these stars. Time flows differently depending on your fraction of light speed and your gravitational field, and when I asked an astronomer about this, they don't seem to take it into account very often.


48 posted on 10/14/2005 7:34:46 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Save Hubble!


51 posted on 10/14/2005 7:44:09 AM PDT by jpsb
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