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Robert Shapiro's son dies at L.A. hospital
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/12892369.htm ^

Posted on 10/13/2005 8:06:39 AM PDT by lunarbicep

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To: veronica

Did some one say just dessert?

61 posted on 10/13/2005 9:02:39 AM PDT by oyez
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To: veronica
I guess you live on a higher plane of consciousness than I do. :)

No, I'm merely trying to become a better person.

Would you argue for instance, that I should not have taken satifaction in the death of Arafat? Or should Bin Laden be killed, should I "forgive" him for 9-11?

I'm not saying not to take precautions against the dangerous, but to embrace hatred with no outlet does no good and merely causes the hater distress.

62 posted on 10/13/2005 9:04:25 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: no dems

i know who i am thinking of but i can't recall his name. this guy IS dead and he used to own the Baltimore Orioles and as soon as someone says his name i will kick myself for not remembering it.


63 posted on 10/13/2005 9:05:57 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: It's me

What's that have to do with the person who died?

By that logic everyone who is related to Cindy Sheehan sucks and her son's death is Karmic Justice.


64 posted on 10/13/2005 9:07:11 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: oyez

Yummm. Bananas Foster - it's not just for breakfast anymore.


65 posted on 10/13/2005 9:08:57 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Hildy

Bailey DEAD ... just wishes he was. Bailey did jail time and was disbarred.


66 posted on 10/13/2005 9:25:02 AM PDT by ipsofacto
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To: Lazamataz

To note that there is an irony to the way the lives of the so-called Dream Team have played out lo these ten years or so, is not to "embrace hate" nor celebrate the death of Shapiro's son. But at least I've given the bored old biddies at CP something to carp about today, as hanging on my every post seems to be their life purpose. I feel so important. :) Happy New Year Laz.


67 posted on 10/13/2005 9:30:01 AM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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To: misterrob
No...

Pessimist said

He probably had a fit, and then his heart just quit... :)

Then misterrob said:

That's cold. A young man with his whole life in front of him died.

Maybe it is cold but many, many people were not happy with the lawyers getting a murderer off.
If you remember Cochran's "If the glove does not fit, you must aquit."

Maybe Goldman's parents and/or Nicole's parents would see what pessimist was trying to say.

I guess I am a cold b*tch but, I thought it clever.

68 posted on 10/13/2005 9:35:12 AM PDT by It's me
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To: oldleft

EARL! I guess this is what you imagine Brent Shapiro would look like. The Earl actor does have a resemblance to Robert Shapiro.


69 posted on 10/13/2005 9:45:37 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: girlscout

KARMA!


70 posted on 10/13/2005 10:00:47 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: discostu

You obviously have found karma to give you some type of comfort. I will grant you that I have not "studied" karma but I have read a lot of accounts of those who have spent their lives devoted to the poor in India or have ministered in other ways. What I have read does not support what you are saying. I believe it is a Satanic belief system because it offers the individual the false belief that they can "get it right" with many chances. I believe that is a wrong and risky belief system. Sometimes I think people like to hang onto the karmic system because it's much easier and more palatable to subscribe to a system that seems to be tit-for-tat. Sowing what one reaps ultimately has more to do with spiritual issues though it also has a pragmatic aspect to it (a woman having unprotected sex with multiple partners is far more likely to be infected with a disease than one in a monogamous - both parties - marriage) but in no way does that mean that a woman automatically will be infected. However, one living a life of unrepentent sin and unbelief will one day face the judgement and Christian belief teach that there is one death and one judgement. I happen to believe that. Have fun with your karma but remember if you are wrong about it, you have a lot to lose. Even Blaise Pascal spoke about that concept.

God Bless.


71 posted on 10/13/2005 10:11:13 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

I find "karma" to be the shortest most convenient term for a concept that can be found in most religions and that I think is a good idea to make a good society.

Some people abuse the idea of reincarnation (which really isn't that tightly tied to karma) as an excuse to ignore the downtrodden, but some people in Christiandom abuse the idea of pre-destiny and God's will to do the same thing. It doesn't mean the idea is bad, just the person.

Actually the idea isn't that you have many chances to get it right, the idea is that you have every chance to get it right. Every time around is an opportunity to do good works and be true to yourself, each life has a mission and the goal is to find and accomplish that mission, how well you succeed at accomplishing your mission is what determines your lot (and mision) the next time around.

I think people hang onto karma because it's a short word that almost everybody sort of knows, every other system that has discussed the idea did so with long phrases that aren't terribly convenient to bandy about. Your example is just as much karmic and sowing and reaping, such a woman shows a disrespect for herself and the emotional/ spiritual aspects of love and as such will pay some sort of price for her action, whether it be disease, emotional despair, or inability to atract a good man. She reaps bad, she puts bad on the wheel, and she will sow bad and get bad on the wheel; same idea, different metaphor.

There's nothing to be wrong about, it's the most basic idea of goodness, to have good things happen be a good person, when bad things happen anyway (as they always will, no one can live a life completely free of tragedy) don't pass it on, be good anyway and trust that the bad times will end. It's an independant of religion, it can even be found in the Social Contract, and contradictory to none.


72 posted on 10/13/2005 10:26:32 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: lunarbicep
An official ruling on cause of death will be made after toxicology results come back in eight to 10 weeks, Smith said.

On CSI, the tests come back in what looks like 8 to 10 seconds. No wonder juries are having a hard time dealing with real police procedure and evidence; TV shows make it all look lightning fast and infallible.

73 posted on 10/13/2005 10:30:01 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: It's me

The guy who died didn't get O.J. off, his father did. And, look at the make up of that jury and that should be the end of it.


75 posted on 10/13/2005 11:52:03 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: Lazamataz
Shapiro was merely doing what our society requires: That even the guilty get the best possible defense.

There are limits to "best possible. The "best possible" defense would include the murder of hostile witnesses and/or the bribing of jurors.
The question of whether a defense attorney is required to knowingly lie for his client, both inside and outside the courtroom, as Shapiro and Cochran did, is open for debate. I say a vigorous defense does not include lying.

76 posted on 10/13/2005 11:52:06 AM PDT by Aegedius (Veni, vidi, icked-kay utt-bay.)
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To: Pessimist

Tasteless, cold, etc.

But funny...


77 posted on 10/13/2005 11:53:58 AM PDT by null and void (Bringing Faith to the Doubtful, and Doubt to the Faithful)
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To: Aegedius
There are limits to "best possible. The "best possible" defense would include the murder of hostile witnesses and/or the bribing of jurors. The question of whether a defense attorney is required to knowingly lie for his client, both inside and outside the courtroom, as Shapiro and Cochran did, is open for debate. I say a vigorous defense does not include lying.

Actually, the question of counsel lying in the courtroom is not up for debate. It also is forbidden. Many an attorney have recused themselves from a case because if they proceeded, they would be required to lie.

However, we do not know that either attorney lied in the courtroom. And you cannot deny that they presented a vigorous defense.

78 posted on 10/13/2005 11:59:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: It's me
True. but so did Nicole and the other young man who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

My theory was that Nicole was very greatful that he brought her glasses to her, and gave him a thank you kiss just as OJ rounded the corner, saw them embracing and just snapped.

No good deed goes unpunished.

79 posted on 10/13/2005 11:59:54 AM PDT by null and void (Bringing Faith to the Doubtful, and Doubt to the Faithful)
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To: cavanman

I guarantee you that Dominick Dunne will address this matter in the next issue of Vanity Fair, and take note of the strange course of events that have played out for the so-called Simpson "Dream Team." As a father who lost a daughter to a violent crime, a crime for which the perp got a slap on the wrist, and as someone intimately involved in the Simspon case, his reflections should be very interesting indeed.


80 posted on 10/13/2005 12:03:39 PM PDT by veronica ("clowns clones clowns/ it's raining clowns/snarling FR obsessed clones/ claws bared clowns"...)
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