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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
If the ultra conservative ideologists want to leave so be it. It happened before when the Buchananite wing of the Republican party left or was kicked out, and since then the GOP has won the Congress and state governorship since 1994 then the White House in 2000 and 2004.
16 posted on 10/12/2005 6:21:17 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: jveritas

Think of it as "trickle down" Conservatism! We are not a party, we are a Very big tent! It's not necessarily a bad thing to have this family fight! Perhaps we'll get some of our family members into "re-hab" with some tough love sooner rather that later!
Either way every one has to come out "honest" or they don't make it through tough love!


24 posted on 10/12/2005 6:27:52 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: jveritas
If the ultra conservative ideologists want to leave so be it. It happened before when the Buchananite wing of the Republican party left or was kicked out, and since then the GOP has won the Congress and state governorship since 1994 then the White House in 2000 and 2004.

So that's yer problem...Your memory is shot...

When we conservatives left the party, you stayed and let Clinton get elected...We came back because there wasn't enough of you to keep Gore and Kerry out of the White House...NOT because of Georgie...

And you imply we were kicked out??? You don't have a party without us...All you have is John McCain...

41 posted on 10/12/2005 6:38:01 PM PDT by Iscool
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"....and since then the GOP has won the Congress and state governorship since 1994 then the White House in 2000 and 2004."

And squandered nearly every opportunity as well as just about driven the GOP into the scrap heap of history.

Good lookin' out.....
not.


62 posted on 10/12/2005 6:55:00 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: jveritas
If the ultra conservative ideologists want to leave so be it. It happened before when the Buchananite wing of the Republican party left or was kicked out, and since then the GOP has won the Congress and state governorship since 1994 then the White House in 2000 and 2004.

But, my friend, GW is pi$$ing off most conservatives, not just 'ultra' conservatives who followed Buchanan. Meirs is the latest example of that and GW had the audacity to send his lovely wife out to the talk circuit to endorse his decision???? Then there is that little CFR bill that he signed that severely limited my rights to free political speech? Then there is the border that he refuses to close to illegal aliens? Then there is his unwillingness to place Katrina blame where it ought to be placed, at the hands of a certain governor and mayor? Then there is his unwillingness to do anything about the cost of energy which is going to cause heartache, if not illness, to many senior citizens in the coming months?

I voted for GW twice and am glad that I had a hand in keeping Gore and Kerry from the wheel. But when I ask myself if I am better off now than I was in January of 2000, the answer is clearly an 'absolutely not!' Then I ask myself, 'WHY'....

78 posted on 10/12/2005 7:10:16 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: jveritas

"If the ultra conservative ideologists want to leave so be it. It happened before when the Buchananite wing of the Republican party left or was kicked out, and since then the GOP has won the Congress and state governorship since 1994 then the White House in 2000 and 2004."

Now, you are talking like one of those looney liberals. It was the scary "ultra conservative ideologists" who ran - and won - in '94. It is the base thinking they are voting in "ultra conservative ideologists" that has kept the GOP in power. And it is the base, as they are seeing before their very eyes the reality of the party now, who will take it out of power.

Get in the back of the bus, RINO. All you are good for is a vote, not charting the direction and driving forward.


133 posted on 10/13/2005 1:11:07 PM PDT by Frank T
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