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Intelligent Design 101: Short on science, long on snake oil
The Minnesota Daily ^ | 10/11/2005 | James Curtsinger

Posted on 10/12/2005 10:43:32 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor

The irreducibly complex teeters on the verge of reduction. None of these difficulties were mentioned.

Good morning, class. As you know, the local school board has decided that we must include “Intelligent Design” in high school biology, so let’s start with the work of Dr. Michael Behe, ID’s leading scientist. Dr. Behe, a professor of biochemistry, visited the U last week as a guest of the MacLaurin Institute. I spoke with him at lunch, attended his public lecture and took notes for today’s class.

Dr. Behe opened his public lecture by showing two images: a mountain range and Mount Rushmore.

One had a designer; the other didn’t. In case anyone was uncertain which was which, Dr. Behe also showed a duck, and emphasized that if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

Ergo if something in biology looks designed, it is designed.

He reviewed “irreducible complexity,” the important notion that certain structures with intricately interacting parts cannot function if any part is removed. According to Dr. Behe, such structures could not evolve gradually, as standard Darwinian Theory supposes; they must be the handiwork of a designer.

Well-known examples include mousetraps, the blood-clotting cascade, the vertebrate immune system and the bacterial flagellum. All of this was covered in his 1996 book, “Darwin’s Black Box.” Dr. Behe spent quite a bit of time talking about reviews of his book, and his responses to reviews.

Surprisingly, he had nothing to say about new developments in ID. Surely this revolutionary approach to biology has produced important scientific insights in the last nine years. Let’s use the Web to discover what they are.

Use Google to find “Entrez PubMed,” which will take you to a database of 15 million peer-reviewed publications in the primary scientific literature. The site, maintained by the National Library of Medicine, allows users to enter a search term and retrieve references to relevant publications.

For instance, enter “natural selection” in the search box and click “go”; about 14,000 references will be found. “Mutation” gets 40,000. “Speciation” gets 5,000. “Human origins” gets 22,000. “Behe intelligent design” gets … zero.

Not one publication in PubMed contains the terms “Behe,” “intelligent,” and “design.” The same holds for “Behe irreducible complexity.” A less restrictive search for “intelligent design” finds 400 papers, but many are not relevant because the words are common in other contexts.

To get more useful information, enter “intelligent design” in quotation marks, which searches for the two words together. When I searched last week, this produced 25 references, of which 13 were irrelevant to this discussion, five were news articles, six were critical of ID, and one was a historical review. “Irreducible complexity” in quotes gets five hits, one irrelevant and the others critical of ID.

Exact numbers change daily as new publications are added to the database, but the pattern is clear. Where are the scientific papers supporting ID?

Perhaps Dr. Behe publishes research papers that support intelligent design without using those terms. Searching PubMed for “Behe MJ” and sorting the results by date, you will find 11 publications since 1992, when the good professor converted to his new Ideology. Several are just letters to the editor.

The most recent (Behe and Snoke, 2004 and 2005) suggest that certain events in molecular evolution have low probability of occurrence.

This falls far short of the claim that a designer must have intervened, but what the heck, let’s put all 11 in the ID column.

Under these rather generous assumptions, ID’s leading light has produced fewer than a dozen peer-reviewed papers for the cause, none of which explicitly mentions ID. That number is substantially less than PubMed finds for “voodoo” (78), and pales in comparison with “diaper rash” (475).

Perhaps when the number of supporting publications rises to the level of “horse feces” (929) the professional community will grant ID some respect.

Cynics will suggest that ID is intentionally excluded from the peer-reviewed literature. It’s possible; the system strives for objectivity, but any human endeavor is potentially subject to bias.

This argument fails, however, when we consider that other revolutionary ideas have successfully crashed the party. Plate tectonics, major meteoritic impacts, and the bacterial origin of mitochondria are important ideas that were initially regarded with skepticism but are now accepted by the professional community.

Non-Darwinian molecular evolution, so-called “neutral theory,” was despised when it was first proposed in the late 1960s, but within a decade it became a standard part of the literature.

The historical evidence suggests that scientists can be persuaded to new views, given appropriate evidence. The primary literature is particular, but not rigid.

While you’re at PubMed, try searching for “bacterial flagella secretion.” One of the resulting papers, by SI Aizawa (2001), reports that some nasty bacteria possess a molecular pump, called a type III secretion system, or TTSS, that injects toxins across cell membranes.

Much to Dr. Behe’s distress, the TTSS is a subset of the bacterial flagellum. That’s right, a part of the supposedly irreducible bacterial “outboard motor” has a biological function!

When I asked Dr. Behe about this at lunch he got a bit testy, but acknowledged that the claim is correct (I have witnesses). He added that the bacterial flagellum is still irreducibly complex in the sense that the subset does not function as a flagellum.

His response might seem like a minor concession, but is very significant. The old meaning of irreducible complexity was, “It doesn’t have any function when a part is removed.” Evidently, the new meaning of irreducible complexity is “It doesn’t have the same function when a part is removed.”

The new definition renders irreducible complexity irrelevant to evolution, because complex adaptations are widely thought to have evolved through natural selection co-opting existing structures for new functions, in opportunistic fashion.

The story is incomplete, but it is a perfectly reasonable hypothesis that the bacterial flagellum evolved first as a secretory system, and later was adapted by natural selection for locomotion.

This scenario for gradual evolution of a complex molecular machine is bolstered by recent reports that some bacterial flagella do, in fact, have a secretory function (and now you know how to find those papers).

The irreducibly complex teeters on the verge of reduction. None of these difficulties were mentioned in the public lecture.

It seems that a new image should be added to Dr. Behe’s public presentation, one that represents the scientific status of intelligent design: a duck on its back, feet in the air, wings splayed.

If it looks like a dead duck, and it smells like a dead duck, it is a dead duck.

James Curtsinger is a University professor in the department of ecology, evolution and behavior. Please send comments to letters@mndaily.com.


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To: conservativebabe
If nobody has yet referred you to PatrickHenry's List-O-Links, perhaps that would be a good place to start.

If you have any questions, just post them to one of the threads and I am sure somebody will try to answer them for you.

121 posted on 10/12/2005 5:47:51 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%
The short answer is that the big bang gets away with it because it is expanding rapidly near the beginning and the rate of expansion is slowing down.

So, toss a sufficiently powerful bomb into a black hole and you can turn it into smithereens.

122 posted on 10/12/2005 11:06:48 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: cynicom
I was taught in basic physics that matter cannot be made or destroyed, changed, yes.

Demand a refund on your tuition.

123 posted on 10/13/2005 8:36:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Pipeline
Scientists can't explain where it all came from and insist there is no intelligence to the design. On one hand they consistently promote evolution as truth, on the other hand they silently reject the possibility that there is a Source from which everything they study originated.

First of all, The Theory of Evolution does not have anything to do with the origin of life. That cannot be stressed enough, since most of the consternation creationists seem to feel about it can be chalked up to misunderstanding this very simple fact. The Theory of Evolution has nothing to do with "where it all came from."

The Theory of Evolution only describes what has happened to life on Earth, not where that life came from.

Second of all, scientists have to reject any possibility for which there is no evidence. Scientists have to reject any argument that fails the basic test of Theory. That's what makes them scientists, after all.

124 posted on 10/13/2005 12:21:24 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Right Wing Professor

I don't know how I missed this excellent thread. I'm very late, but I'm cranking up the ping machine ...


125 posted on 10/13/2005 1:34:00 PM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 310 names.
See the list's explanation at my freeper homepage.
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See what's new in The List-O-Links.

126 posted on 10/13/2005 1:35:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry ( I won't respond to a troll, crackpot, retard, or incurable ignoramus.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


127 posted on 10/13/2005 1:40:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Right Wing Professor

HAHAHAHA! Great post! :-)


128 posted on 10/13/2005 1:43:03 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Zhangliqun
What is it that separates living things from inanimate matter? Life

The dividing line between lifelessness and life, what exactly is it? There is no dividing line.

In other words, how does inanimate matter suddenly (and literally) come to life? Ingestion and digestion, but it doesn't happen suddenly.

Or does the naturalist/atheist posit that what we call life, biology, in plants and animals is different from the activity of molecules or subatomic particles only in degree, not in kind? It does not differ at all.

129 posted on 10/13/2005 1:49:48 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Right Wing Professor

totally off-topic: Am I alone in finding "type three secretion system" far easier to say, remember, and comprehend than "TTSS"?


130 posted on 10/13/2005 1:56:35 PM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

It would appear that the definition of irreducible complexity is not itself irreducibly complex.


131 posted on 10/13/2005 2:00:07 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Elpasser
To believe that something comes from nothing, or that the first cell "organized" itself from chaos, is remarkably naive and uninformed.

You started on a tirade on evolution, then launched into this, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the theory of evolution. That you would bring up two totally unrelated subjects suggest that you don't actually understand the theory of evolution. If you don't understand the theory of evolution, to the point of ascribing elements that it does not posess to it, then you carry no credibility on the subject.
132 posted on 10/13/2005 2:09:51 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Zhangliqun; Doctor Stochastic

it may come as a surprise to you, but "life" has, as yet, no completely satisfactory universal definition. the best tentative definitions I have seen posit that life has the following characteristics: dynamic patterned stability in a complex system of matter and energy, self-organizing, self-maintaining, and self-replicating - though this last is not clearly required.


133 posted on 10/13/2005 2:19:41 PM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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Splat placemarker.


134 posted on 10/13/2005 2:24:18 PM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: Dimensio
Not only that, but it's malleable. (And on creationist web sites, fungible.)
135 posted on 10/13/2005 2:24:25 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Please leave the fungi out of this.


136 posted on 10/13/2005 2:26:36 PM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: balrog666

"splat"?


137 posted on 10/13/2005 2:27:43 PM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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To: Right Wing Professor; PatrickHenry
and pales in comparison with “diaper rash” (475).

Perhaps when the number of supporting publications rises to the level of “horse feces” (929) the professional community will grant ID some respect.

I laughed so hard I cried.

Thank you very, very much for this post / ping.

138 posted on 10/13/2005 2:31:40 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine (Perhaps when the number of supporting publications rises to the level of “horse feces” (929) the pro)
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To: balrog666

splat splat.


139 posted on 10/13/2005 2:32:10 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: conservativebabe
If you are truly interested in learning more about the subject, you might want to check out this link . It is a list that answers most of the common criticisms against evolutionary theory from a mainstream scientific viewpoint. You may not agree with what it says, but it addresses at least a few of the questions I saw you ask. (If you want the creationist side of things, you'll have to ask someone else...)

Just trying to say, before bringing up a point here, be aware that many of your questions/criticisms about evolution might already be addressed on this list; a lot of the regulars here are familiar with it. (References are also provided within each subject.)

Good luck learning more - evolution is definitely not an easy subject to understand, as I'm gradually finding out more and more.

140 posted on 10/13/2005 2:43:18 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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