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What Rove Said To Dobson (Some on SC short list took themselves off)
National Journal - Hotline ^ | 10/11/05 | Hotline staff

Posted on 10/12/2005 7:21:53 AM PDT by frankjr

The secret stuff (which is bolded in the full entry) is that Rove first spoke to Dobson on Saturday and told him that Miers was high on the short list. And second, that several prominent prospects had taken themsevles out of contention.

This clearly will raise other questions -- clearly, if what Rove told Dobson is true (and we're reading the implication correctly), the president was not choosing from his ideal field of candidates -- and it dovetails with scuttlebutt that other potential nominees asked not to be considered.

According to Dobson: "Karl Rove has now given me permission to go public with our conversation."

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{Dobson partial transcript below}

"But we also talked about something else, and I think this is the first time this has been disclosed. Some of the other candidates who had been on that short list, and that many conservatives are now upset about were highly qualified individuals that had been passed over. Well, what Karl told me is that some of those individuals took themselves off that list and they would not allow their names to be considered, because the process has become so vicious and so vitriolic and so bitter, that they didn't want to subject themselves or the members of their families to it.

So, even today, many conservatives and many of friends of mine, are being interviewed on talk shows and national television programs. And they're saying, "Why didn't the President appoint so-and-so? He or she would have been great. They had a wonderful judicial record. They would have been the kind of person we've been hoping and working and praying for to be on the Court. Well, it very well may be that those individuals didn't want to be appointed."

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Who knows who?
1 posted on 10/12/2005 7:21:55 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr

This is what "diversity" has wrought. The Whitehouse decided they just had to have a woman for stupid symbolic purposes and thus severely limited the pool of possibilities. Potential nominees start dropping out rather than go through the grinder and thus we're left with Miers: the only one vague enough and loyal enough to go through with it. For God's sake, let the Liberals appoint women and Hispanics and Native Americans and hunchbacks with cleft palates when they get in charge. Just give us a solid nominee.


2 posted on 10/12/2005 7:28:30 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: frankjr

Owens was rumored to have removed her name the weekend before Bush nominated Miers. RedState.org and NRO's Bench memo's wrote about it pre-Miers.

I also read rumors that Brown removed her name because she has not yet recovered from her recent 4 year battle to get confirmed on the Appeals Court.


3 posted on 10/12/2005 7:32:02 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: frankjr

Does it really matter. She was on the list. I don't think she's a good pick at all, but I think we will be very foolish to derail her. Not because of Bush, but because of all our past arguments against the 'rats. How can we say they are wrong to derail someone over ideological differences if we do it? And how could we accept Ginsburg but not Miers? Bad as it is, we are stuck with Miers.


4 posted on 10/12/2005 7:32:10 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The sacrifices of God are a broken and contrite heart. Ps. 51:17)
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To: Callahan

Oh, so it's still Bush's fault?


5 posted on 10/12/2005 7:36:11 AM PDT by Dionysiusdecordealcis
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To: Dionysiusdecordealcis
Oh, so it's still Bush's fault?

Bush's fault? Bush's fault? Now where have I heard that before?

6 posted on 10/12/2005 7:39:10 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Callahan

The context implies that "solid nominee" = WHITE MAN.


7 posted on 10/12/2005 7:39:16 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Callahan

Perhaps the more qualified women removed themselves from consideration because they didn't want to be nominated based on their sex but their qualifications. Perhaps they will allow themselves to be considered for a general-occupancy appointment.


8 posted on 10/12/2005 7:40:43 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: frankjr
...Clearly, if what Rove told Dobson is true (and we're reading the implication correctly), the president was not choosing from his ideal field of candidates -- and it dovetails with scuttlebutt that other potential nominees asked not to be considered....

I love "little birdies" that give political cover.

9 posted on 10/12/2005 7:44:06 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

that old word "comity" is one that Senate Republicans still respect but Democrats long ago abandoned. This is nothing new, and is a true harvest of shame for the nation brought about by the savagery of the left and the media. Here's hoping DeLay can punch out Ronnie Earle and show an example of backbone, and hard knuckles, to the Republican party.


10 posted on 10/12/2005 7:45:01 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Callahan
The Whitehouse decided they just had to have a woman for stupid symbolic purposes

Considering that the White House initially nominated Roberts to replace O'Conner, that argument falls apart.

IMO key RINOs in the Senate were the ones who set the gender criteria, and the White House was forced to work within that set guideline.

11 posted on 10/12/2005 7:46:21 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Republican Red

I understand this, yet at the same time I don't....Look..if it's turem. then it is all thre MORE reasson why they needed to have ther fight NOW...to go nuclear if needed.. and surely Bush could have asked ONE judge like Own, to put herself in the line of fire..


12 posted on 10/12/2005 7:47:57 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: frankjr
OK Lets me get this straight.

Will, Coulter, Buchanan jump ugly with President Bush over Harriet Miers nomination. They claim she is not qualified or they don't know enough about her, or both at the same time.

President Bush has watched time and again his nominees go before these schmucks in the senate only to be harassed by this pack of media seeking hyenas. He has time and again watched the republican schmucks he is supposed to be counting on turn tail and run once a little fur starts to fly.

Now add to this that not only has President Bush been watching this scrum of idiots totally trash nominees along with the confirmation process over and over, but future nominees have as well and do not want to be placed in the care of the incompetent Republicans ruling the judicial committee.

President Bush not only finds a woman who has worked for him for many years, earned his confidence, the deciding factor may have been that she was willing to risk her reputation in this circus of the absurd.

Clowns in front of her asking/posing peacock puffed up like questions and blowhards to the rear sniping about what school she attended or speculation if she is a lesbian or not.

And yet some of the Presidents own party fault this nomination of Harriet Miers.
13 posted on 10/12/2005 7:48:51 AM PDT by baystaterebel (http://omphalosgazer.blogspot.com/)
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To: Callahan
This is what "diversity" has wrought.

Not really. IMO, this is what weak leadership has wrought.

It’s like when your parents went out of town for the weekend and left you in the care of your 17 year-old cousin.

It becomes problematic because the cousin is more “friend” than “parent.”

Mom or dad asks you to do something and you do it. Second time you aren’t “asked” to do it, you’re instructed to do it. Third time you’ll feel pain AND do it.

But cousin isn’t mom or dad. Cousin is just another dumb kid. Cousin doesn’t command respect or obedience.

Things tend to be chaotic as a result.

Same thing here.

Georgie isn’t President or even Presidential. He’s just a dope that happens to fill the position for the time being. He doesn’t command or deserve respect or cooperation – or obedience, even within his own party.

That’s the problem in a nutshell as I see it.

14 posted on 10/12/2005 7:50:17 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: ken5050
and surely Bush could have asked ONE judge like Own, to put herself in the line of fire

I don't know about that. Depends on what the nominee doesn't want out in the public. What if a nominee has a spouse or child with a secret? I would not expect them to sacrifice a family member for the job.

We saw the democrats immediately go after 4 year old Jack Roberts while the President was still on tv announing the candidacy. I would not put it past the democrats to destroy anybody to stop the judicial confirmations.
15 posted on 10/12/2005 7:56:17 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: ClaireSolt

No, a "solid nominee" is a candidate with impeccable credentials and an established originalist judicial philosophy. The fact is that when you restrict the pool to women (or Hispanics or Eskimos) for pure symbolic, smiley face purposes your options go way down.


16 posted on 10/12/2005 7:58:35 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Who dat?
He’s just a dope that happens to fill the position for the time being.

That's the kind of crap I expect to hear on DU, not FR.

I disagree with a lot of the stuff that Bush does.

But he's not a dope.

The situation he faces is because of seven RINOs in the Senate. And Senators have their own power and guard it jealously. Except for a couple RINO Senators up for election in 2006, Bush has no power to punish them in any manner. That is the reality here.

17 posted on 10/12/2005 8:02:50 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Who dat?

It IS a leadership problem. Senators like Schumer and Kennedy or schmucks like clinton, stand up and say things that no gentleman would have stood for in the old days without challenging them to a duel, and Bush just stands there and smiles and names a public building after them, or tells his pa to give them a good-citizenship award or take them for a nice cruise.

When the Democrats play dirty, they should be held accountable for it. Then maybe they wouldn't keep doing it.


18 posted on 10/12/2005 8:03:19 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Republican Red
Owens was rumored to have removed her name the weekend before Bush nominated Miers. RedState.org and NRO's Bench memo's wrote about it pre-Miers.

And the real irony is, if Miers withdraws and Bush has to hunt for someone else, not only will potential nominees be given pause by potential attacks from the left, they will now also be given pause by potential attacks from those on the right.

Ann Coulter, after all, ripped into John Roberts as well, who turned out to be a very good nominee. Do some on the right now feel it is open season on Bush nominees, no matter what? Do they realize that many of folks they say Bush should have nominated didn't want the job? Do they ever examine their own role in how the situation came to be so toxic as they berate the situation?

19 posted on 10/12/2005 8:07:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Who dat?
Georgie isn't President or even Presidential. He's just a dope that happens to fill the position for the time being.

Getting ready for your conversion to DU?

20 posted on 10/12/2005 8:15:44 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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