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Germans Suddenly Cool on Grand Coalition
Reuters ^ | 10/11/2005 | Philip Blenkinsop

Posted on 10/11/2005 10:18:23 AM PDT by ex-Texan

BERLIN, Oct 11 (Reuters) - Now that Germans are on the verge of getting what they wanted, they're beginning to have second thoughts.

In last month's tight election and in recent opinion polls German voters have sent a clear message about the kind of government they prefer -- a consensus-driven "grand coalition" of the country's two largest parties.

On Monday, three weeks after the vote, a deal was finally struck between Germany's Christian Democrats (CDU) and Social Democrats (SPD) that ends a political deadlock and paves the way for just such a coalition under conservative Angela Merkel.

The response on the streets of Germany and in the country's media? A collective groan.

"It was not the optimal solution, but there weren't any other options," said Irnar Arvid from Frankfurt, standing outside the Reichstag parliamentary building in the German capital. "We simply have to accept a grand coalition."

Top-selling newspaper Bild said neither centre-right nor centre-left could rejoice at the deal.

"The greatest triumph of the conservatives is at the same time the greatest burden: Angela Merkel must prove that she can lead a coalition of new possibilities and not an alliance of stagnation," Bild said in an editorial.

According to a poll on public broadcaster ARD, 75 percent of Germans said they regarded a union of Social Democrats and conservatives as an emergency solution. Only 30 percent said they were pleased that formal negotiations between the parties would now begin.

Yet expectations are high. Some 54 percent of the public believe a grand coalition would be well-placed to solve Germany's problems.

Business, which expressed horror at the thought of a grand coalition before the Sept. 18 election, had also warmed up in recent weeks to the idea of a stable alliance that could clean up the budget and reform Germany's complex federal system.

REALITY SINKS IN

However, the reality may now be striking home.

"The biggest threat for the grand alliance is the great expectation. This coalition is expected to achieve what no other political force has managed," said Sueddeutsche Zeitung.

The euro currency has struggled since Monday's deal was announced on concern that a Merkel-led coalition may not make much headway on key economic reforms to boost sluggish growth and cut near-record unemployment.

The public too suddenly has reservations.

"I had hoped for a grand coalition, but the last few weeks have not been encouraging," said Berliner Christian Schleef, 40.

The parties themselves, despite weeks of talks to cool hot tempers from the nasty election campaign, seemed less than enthused on Monday about joining forces with their rivals.

For outgoing Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's SPD, there is apprehension about working under Angela Merkel, a woman they have accused of being unfit for office.

For Merkel's conservatives, there is concern at having offered most of the key cabinet posts to the SPD.

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung warned that both parties could come under pressure from their left-wings to play it safe and water down reforms.

"There is a danger that the SPD and the conservatives start competing to see who expects the least change from Germans."

Merkel herself reflected the mixed mood well. Pressed repeatedly on Monday about how she felt about becoming chancellor, she smiled ever so briefly, muttered that her mood was good, before shifting quickly to the difficulties that still lie ahead in forging Germany's first grand coalition since the 1960s and making it a success.

(Additional reporting by Valdis Wish, Andrew Gray)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: germany; grandcoalition

1 posted on 10/11/2005 10:18:26 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan

Germany with their political problems and France with their labor problems are going to be too pre-occupied internally to cause us much grief.


2 posted on 10/11/2005 10:27:00 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: ex-Texan
Can you even imagine the Republicans leading a grand coalition between Republicans and Dimocrats? With the Democrats in the top key policy positions?
Disaster!
The Dims would undermine everything the Republican leader would try to do. And who winds getting the blame? The Republican leadership, since they are the leaders.
This is a no-win solution for Merkel and her party, for Schroeder's party this is definitely a win-win solution.
This solution is spelled d-i-s-a-s-t-e-r!
3 posted on 10/11/2005 10:41:13 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Semper Paratus

Not necessarily... Sometimes the best thing to do when you're messed up internally is to start focusing your population on the problems (real or imagined) in other countries. Keeps 'em from screaming too loudly at you to fix things.


4 posted on 10/11/2005 10:42:53 AM PDT by faloi
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To: ex-Texan

The tragedy of the Weimar Republic revisited - this time as farce, thank God!


5 posted on 10/11/2005 11:02:20 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: ex-Texan
In last month's tight election and in recent opinion polls German voters have sent a clear message about the kind of government they prefer -- a consensus-driven "grand coalition" of the country's two largest parties.

That is an assinine analysis. The nation is sharply divided. The results are akin to the results of the 2000 election in the US. The difference is that the Germs have a faulty parlimentary system.

This journalist is a moron.

6 posted on 10/11/2005 11:03:22 AM PDT by mbraynard (Mustache Rides - Five Cents!)
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To: mbraynard
Germany is run by the Communists. The former East Germany overwhelmed the west with free elections. Commies, socialists and greenies have ruined Germany. The "Grand Coalition" fraud is just the start. The first time Merkel attempts to reform the economy, Germany will be paralyzed with labor strikes. Schoeder will be back in power within a year. From there, it's all down hill.

How the Communists Rule Germany

by Thomas Rudolf

John F. Kennedy said that "Communism has never come to power in a country that was not disrupted by war or corruption, or both."

Germany must be the great exception. Germany has experienced no war in the last years and the corruption rate is certainly lower than in many other countries. Yet the successors of the Communist SED from Eastern Germany won almost 9% in the last election about three weeks ago, in a country that is so proud of its alleged freedom-orientated and pro-market constitution. This 9% was decisive because it prevented the formation of an electoral coalition for reform of any sort.

Thus do we observe the remarkable reality: a decade and a half after the Berlin Wall fell, and all these years after the discrediting of the socialist idea all over Europe, it is the Communists and their supporters who are preventing reform and the socialists of various stripes whose policies are keeping the German economy off the growth path.

Before getting to the details of the most recent elections, consider the history. In the decades since World War II, Germany has turned into a welfare state of incredible dimensions: six weeks of paid vacation per year for every employee (guaranteed by law), myriad possibilities to shorten the working life (only a handful of German citizens over 60 still work), a working week of only 35 hours in many industries, and extensive social security and health insurance.

Simultaneously with the growing welfare state the unemployment rate grew steadily and economic growth diminished. Together with the demographic impact of an ageing society — low birth rates and expanded life spans — the German welfare state is increasingly unviable. Since the end of the 1990s more and more people admit that the glory days of the German "Soziale Marktwirtschaft" are over.

Surprisingly it was the Social Democratic Party, traditionally the biggest defender of the welfare state, that began the drive to change with some moves toward deregulating the labor market. What happened then was decisive: the left wing of the SPD complained about the politics of their own chancellor in the public media.

Some of them, including the former top candidate and chairman Oskar Lafontaine, left the party to cooperate with the East German SED, now called PDS. Germany's Left Party was born. It is nothing more than a combination of the surviving defenders of Marxism and the disappointed defenders of the welfare state who don't want to face the reality of a global market.

Keep in mind that Germany has no active public debate concerning the choice between freedom and statism, and libertarian ideas have no public presence. Voters are easily manipulated. The parties, especially the SPD, saw how voters changed sides and ran to the Communists. They promised the time of the welfare state is not over yet. They promised minimum wages, more unemployment benefits and an end to globalization. The also warned of "foreign workers." Probably the leaders of the Left Party saw the absurdity of these promises, too.

But why did this party garner more than 26% in Eastern Germany where the people should know what Communism means, namely eliminating private property and canceling freedoms? Luca Ferrini pointed to an answer in his article "Why do people vote for Communists?" People who haven't experienced freedom are not attracted to the necessity of self-responsibility that comes with the idea of a free society. It seems much easier to live in a society where everyone else is responsible for your actions.

A free society means the chance to be successful for those who are creative, innovative, and ready to take a risk: if you succeed, you get the benefit and you are free to choose what to do with it. But in a society like Eastern Germany with an unemployment rate of more than 20% in many counties, the dependence on the benefits of a welfare state is so immense that people decide not to vote for a cut of their own publicly financed income and benefits.

The perverse result is that these people exercise the decisive influence over a whole country and prevent the parties that have a will for reforms from doing anything at all. The roots of this evil situation are again in the welfare state: after 1990 the government brought the welfare state to Eastern Germany and prevented economic development under free-market conditions. The result was high unemployment and inefficient production.

Election Results

On September 18th Germany's conservatives won a narrow victory against the coalition of the Social Democrats and the Green Party but fell short of the majority needed to form a center-right government with their preferred partners, the free-market orientated and pro-business Free Democrats. The Communists were the reason.

The Christian Democratic Union (CDU) and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU) had been expected to reach more than 40% of the votes. Instead the CDU plus the CSU together won only 35.2%. That gives them 226 seats in the new 598-seat Bundestag, the lower house of the parliament. These are four more seats than Schroeder's Social Democratic Party, SPD, which won 34.3% of the votes (222 seats).

The lower-than-expected number of seats makes it impossible for the conservative top candidate Mrs. Angela Merkel to form a center-right coalition. The preferred partner, the Free Democrats reached 10% of the votes, which is fantastic for this party. But it gives them only 61 seats in the Bundestag, which is not enough for a center-right coalition.

Schroeder's current coalition partner, the Green Party, reached only 8% of the votes or 51 seats. So also the old coalition of the SPD and the Greens has no majority yet. The reason again:the Communist Left Party. It is a combination of some former left-wing Social Democrats, who left the party because of Schroeder's labor market reforms in the last years, and the former SED in Eastern Germany — the party of the dictators of the former German Democratic Republic. They won almost 9% of the votes and 54 seats.

This demonstrates not only the attractiveness of Communist policy, it also shows the existing disunion between former Western and Eastern Germany. In Eastern Germany more than 26% of the people voted for the Communists, almost nobody did in Western Germany.

Without Eastern Germany the coalition of the Conservatives and the Free Democrats would have a big majority in parliament. A result that is preferred by many economists because CDU/CSU and the Free Democrats have a big majority in the upper house of the parliament. A majority in both houses makes the way for some necessary reforms in Germany.

Possible Coalitions

Besides a coalition of the two big parties, SPD and CDU/CSU, there are some other possibilities and impossibilities. The Green Party, as well as the SPD, could rule out a coalition or cooperation with the Communists to form a leftwing government. The Free Democrats could rule of a coalition with the SPD and the Green Party. That makes it difficult and almost impossible to form a coalition between the Free Democrats, the Conservatives, and the Greens. The situation is dissatisfying for every side. Neither the center-left parties of the Social Democrats and the Greens, nor the Conservatives and the Free Democrats, can build a government. And again, the reason: the huge number of votes for the Communists.

Current Situation

More than two weeks after the election it seems increasingly likely that Germany will be governed by a grand coalition of the Conservatives (CDU/CSU) and the Social Democrats (SPD). After three meetings of the heads of these parties, the possibility of such a coalition is much higher than any other constellation.

Mrs. Merkel claims a mandate to put together a government under her leadership. Her position is strong since her party has stood behind her, though the winning margin to the Social Democrats is very small. Gerhard Schroeder, the incumbent chancellor, who had earlier ruled out a grand coalition with Mrs. Merkel, now sounds open to a deal. So he said: "It will be possible to form a stable constellation that will keep Germany on its reform path for four years."

But Schroeder also claims the position for the chancellor in a grand coalition although his party lost more than 4% and is no longer the strongest party in the parliament. The two did not resolve their dispute over who would be in charge. They put it off for another day.

The positions of the Conservatives and the Social Democrats are so fundamentally different that a grand coalition can only produce a non-satisfactory compromise. And yet the need for reform is desperate in many areas: public health insurance, social security, educational policy, energy policy, the question of Turkey's entrance to the European Union, and external affairs with Russia, China, and even the United States.

To sum up: Mrs. Merkel is very free-market orientated, even for some conservatives. She wants to privatize more public companies and wants to abolish a big part of bureaucracy and to weaken the power of the labor unions. In a grand coalition, she will be required to water down these proposals and tolerate the more socialist policy of the Social Democrats. Although the SPD undertook some worthy reforms during the last years, they suffer from the old problem of believing too much in the power of the state and its bureaucracy.

And so the tragedy is clear: the continuation of socialist-style policy is the means that the German political establishment will choose in order to avoid granting more power to the former Communists of East Germany. Communists controlled less of Germany 20 years ago than they do today. It does make one wonder who won the Cold War after all.

This great opinion editorial was linked on this site If you really want to get angry, read about "the stark reality of America's financial breakdown." Why? The very same forces that are destroying Germany are at work in the U.S. The Democrats have adopted the communist line (or national socialist line of 1930's Germany). The Republicans have opted for Rino socialism. We now the "Republicrats" running Congress.

Corporations are shipping American jobs overseas. Open borders have ruined America. Forged matricula cards, green cards and identity papers abound. Welcome to Norte Mexico where Mexican illegals vote in America.

7 posted on 10/11/2005 11:37:49 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan; Michael81Dus; Dog; dead; Grampa Dave; Nick Danger; Allegra; MikeinIraq; rdb3; mhking; ...

What's important is that Schroeder is gone. G O N E.

Without Schroeder at the head, France can't depend upon Germany to back every anti-American move that Chirac makes...and without Germany's backing, France will have to be more reserved...conciliatory, even.

Without being rabidly anti-American, Chirac will get tossed out of power.

Thus, the leaders who opposed the Iraq War (e.g. Chirac, Schroeder, Hussein) will all soon be deposed. Hussein is in jail. Schroeder is in retirement. Chirac is down to 23% popularity.

Moreover, the leaders who supported the Iraq War have all been re-elected (e.g. Bush, Blair, Howard, Koizumi, Poland, etc.).

This disproves the lie being pushed by the Corrupt News Media that the Iraq War is globally unpopular.

8 posted on 10/11/2005 12:20:43 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ex-Texan; Blurblogger; WOSG; blogblogginaway
"The first time Merkel attempts to reform the economy, Germany will be paralyzed with labor strikes."

Merkel just needs one positive surprise (then she'll win the next election and be done with this ridiculous coalition).

So look for her to propose something radical...something surprising...something that the German people will back by more than 50%.

I don't know that particular "thing," but I'll show a wholly incomplete list of guesses:

1. Re-opens German (or nearby Czech) coal mines for unlimited mining to supply a grand German coal-to-gasoline business program
2. Re-builds the German military under the guise of creating a new NATO natural disaster rapid reaction "humanitarian" force (possibly conscripting all able-bodied unemployed)
3. Declares Germany a no-tax zone in perpetuity for any foreign company willing to move to Germany to set up headquarters there

...or some other bold policy proposal.

Merkel needs just one big idea. After that, she'll run the tables at the next election. Expectations are LOW, so she'll soar above those thoughts and deliver MORE than was expected...making her very, very popular.

9 posted on 10/11/2005 12:32:00 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: ex-Texan
This demonstrates not only the attractiveness of Communist policy, it also shows the existing disunion between former Western and Eastern Germany. In Eastern Germany more than 26% of the people voted for the Communists, almost nobody did in Western Germany.

Almost nobody in Western Germany voted for a party CALLING themselves communists, but they did nonetheless.

Oldest Lib trick in the book.

10 posted on 10/11/2005 12:39:39 PM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Southack; Fedora; Pukin Dog; Sam Hill; All
Absolutely. Everywhere, there are parched souls craving hope and liberty and hoping America and the Bush Doctrine and true freedom prevails.

EUROPE - THY NAME IS COWARDICE--Matthias Dapfner, Chief Executive of the huge German publisher Axel Springer AG, has written a blistering attack in DIE WELT, Germany's largest daily newspaper...

Thank you America - From "Bild", Germany's most read newspaper.

The Cows Come Home: Suddenly, France and Germany support democracy in Iraq.

11 posted on 10/11/2005 12:41:40 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: backhoe; Cindy

ping to links in post 11


12 posted on 10/11/2005 12:42:39 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Blurblogger

I don't get it... First you say Die Welt is Germany's largest newspaper, then you say Bilt is the most read...

Or is Die Welt like the Sunday New York Times' New York Edition? :^D (As in, LITERALLY the largest paper.)


13 posted on 10/11/2005 6:30:34 PM PDT by dangus
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