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Police: Man Takes Train With Bow and Arrow
The NEWS HERALD ^ | October 11,2005 | TIM MOLLOY (AP)

Posted on 10/11/2005 8:12:17 AM PDT by shooter223

MONTCLAIR, Calif. (AP) -- In a confrontation reminiscent of the Wild West, police shot and wounded a man who allegedly took over a freight train with a bow and arrow.

Juventino Vallejo-Camerena boarded the Union Pacific train Sunday night as it was stopped for a signal and threatened the engineer and conductor, the only people on board, police Capt. Keith Jones said.

The crew members escaped and disabled the train by turning off fuel switches, then used a cell phone to call police, Union Pacific spokesman Mark Davis said.

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time for bow and arrow control?
1 posted on 10/11/2005 8:12:22 AM PDT by shooter223
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To: shooter223

He demanded the train take him to Cuba?


2 posted on 10/11/2005 8:18:18 AM PDT by joesnuffy (US Army Cooks...."Death from Within")
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To: shooter223
Are bows legal in gun-control havens like the UK?

A good crossbow can do as much or more damage than a gun.
3 posted on 10/11/2005 8:19:12 AM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: shooter223

When bows and arrows are outlawed, everybody will be Robin Hood.


4 posted on 10/11/2005 8:21:04 AM PDT by 4mycountry (: TheBigB rules and anyone who argues gets ZOT-ed, understand?! :)
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To: varyouga

Provided you're over 17, yes.


5 posted on 10/11/2005 8:24:50 AM PDT by English Nationalist
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To: varyouga
Depending on the gun. A bow is deadly but a lot slower to shoot.

Any decent fire arm is more effective then a bow.

6 posted on 10/11/2005 8:31:42 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: varyouga

When its inventor showed it to his king, the king noted "such a horrific weapon, surly it will end all wars".

That, is the history of the crossbow.

Pretty nasty if you know how to use them.


7 posted on 10/11/2005 8:31:50 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: riverrunner

I took a deer once with a bow and arrow. Must've been a helluva shot to take a train with one!


8 posted on 10/11/2005 8:32:25 AM PDT by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: joesnuffy

"He demanded the train take him to Cuba?"

My travel agent neighbor had one of his repeat customers call and ask about booking on Amtrak to Hawaii.


9 posted on 10/11/2005 8:36:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("There are millions of mediocre Americans, and they, too, deserve to be represented in the USSC. -RH)
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To: joesnuffy; Clemenza

Back some years ago, the seventies I think, someone hijacked a PATH train from the World Trade Center to Newark Penn Station and demanded that the motorman drive the train to Cuba. The motorman complied, and drove the train as far south as he could, to the car yard just past Penn Station. End of the third rail, end of the track.


10 posted on 10/11/2005 8:41:03 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: shooter223
A friend of mine took this monster with a bow.

I suspect he thought it was like taking a train.

11 posted on 10/11/2005 8:45:27 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: riverrunner
Depending on the gun. A bow is deadly but a lot slower to shoot.

Any decent fire arm is more effective then a bow.

True. But this is California where it is virtually guaranteed that no one in public (unless they're "criminals" or police) will have a gun. Thus, a bow is good enough.

Who wants to be first to challenge the man with the bow?

12 posted on 10/11/2005 8:45:29 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: shooter223
Man Takes Train With Bow and Arrow

If I've heard it once I've heard it 1,000 times,... it's all about shot placement.

13 posted on 10/11/2005 8:50:26 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: IGOTMINE

I was flipping channels a couple of days ago and saw guys hunting pheasant-on-the-fly with bows. Interesing.


14 posted on 10/11/2005 8:51:55 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Like a midget at a urinal - stay on your toes...)
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To: ErnBatavia

Heap too much fire water. Make Pee-in-woods-talk-crazy-acetone-breath-by-tranquil-waters go on bender, again.


15 posted on 10/11/2005 9:03:06 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: varyouga
A good crossbow can do as much or more damage than a gun.

Hmmmm? I think a 9mm with 15 JHP rounds can do more damage.

16 posted on 10/11/2005 9:12:26 AM PDT by Cobra64
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To: shooter223
In a confrontation reminiscent of the Wild West, police shot and wounded a man who allegedly took over a freight train with a bow and arrow.

Which Indian tribe was it that robbed all those trains?

17 posted on 10/11/2005 9:30:37 AM PDT by Ranxerox
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To: varyouga

You forgot to add in the acceptable yardage limits for crossbow usage vs rifles. Even a .22 will outgun a crossbow.


18 posted on 10/11/2005 10:51:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (3 to 5 seconds check- employees immigration status - http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/SAVE.htm)
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