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NYC Ed Dept. eyes charge kids bullied, 1 beaten (called "cracker" and "white boy,")
NY Daily News ^ | 10.10.05 | KATHLEEN LUCADAMO

Posted on 10/10/2005 7:32:44 PM PDT by Coleus

Ed Dept. eyes charge
kids bullied, 1 beaten

Students victims of race hate, mom sez

 

Lisa Brown moved from Oklahoma so that her two sons, Sloan (l.) and J.T. and her daughter Robbie could experience diversity in Brooklyn.
City education officials are investigating the claims of a pair of boys from Oklahoma who moved to Brooklyn to experience diversity, and instead say they got schooled in racism and violence.

Mom Lisa Brown, 33, told the Daily News she relocated her family from their small Oklahoma town so her husband, a Brooklyn native and social worker, could more easily find work and her sons could experience different people and ways of life.

Brown enrolled her sons, Sloan, 12, and J.T., 13, at Ebbets Field Middle School in Crown Heights. But when the boys, who are white, showed up, their mom said, they got a chilling indication of what was to come.

"Oh my gosh, we are going to have fun this year," a security guard muttered, according to Brown.

Things quickly got worse.

Sloan was beaten mercilessly, called "cracker" and "white boy," and chased into traffic by his new classmates, his family said.

The abuse got so bad that Sloan routinely bolted out of the building to find his brother and run to a nearby subway, dodging verbal and physical attacks, he said.

"It almost makes me cry," Sloan said. "I'm scared to go back."

The brothers skipped school all last week while their parents tried to sort out the mess.

"Do I have to send the National Guard in to get my children an education?" asked the distraught mom.

When Brown tried to alert Principal Marge Baker to the abuse, "the principal refused to take the calls," she charged.

Brown filed several police reports at the 71st Precinct stationhouse about the alleged abuse, but said she was ignored.

Police sources said precinct cops did take the incident seriously but believe school staff are in a better position to deal with what appeared to be a series of schoolyard fights and bullying.

The boys' stepfather, Ken Brown, requested a transfer for the boys on Sept. 28, but Education Department officials noted he can't seek the change because he is not a custodial parent.

Eventually, the fedup mom went to nearby Elijah Stroud Middle School to transfer her sons there, but said the principal told her: "They'll have the same problem here."

Education officials promised to help the Browns - after being contacted by The News.

"The principal was not sufficiently attentive to this situation," the Education Department said in a statement. "Upon learning of the situation, the region is taking immediate action to arrange a transfer for these children.

"We will fully investigate what happened, including whether racist statements, which are not tolerated, were made and take appropriate action."

Brown said the Education Department called her several times over the weekend, after The News made queries, pledging to get the kids into Elijah Stroud and chastising her for calling in the press.

Despite the principal's warning, Lisa agreed to send her boys to Elijah Stroud tomorrow.

"I'll make sure my kids are safe because it is the school system's job to make sure they are," she said.

For Sloan and J.T., escaping Ebbets Field Middle School will be a relief. The school opened in September as one of the city's many new small schools, with plans to "become the crown jewel" of Crown Heights, according to the Education Department Web site.

The Browns said their ethnically and racially diverse neighbors in Prospect Heights have embraced them, and they thought New York was "the greatest place on Earth" - until they started battling the school system.

"I was excited to expose my children to a complete variety of people," Lisa Brown said. "I thought it would be an advantage. I always told my children that children could be cruel - but not to this extent."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Oklahoma
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To: rmlew

And you point is, what? Life isn't fair? Life is what it's always been, the winners are the brilliant, the clever and the ruthless.


Collegiate? Isn't that where Jim Carroll went?


261 posted on 10/10/2005 11:54:02 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Yehuda

Times have changed."

Yes, thank God, they have.



Yup, now the quotas only apply to Asian students.


263 posted on 10/10/2005 11:56:20 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Yehuda; durasell
1966. Mom took me to Trinity for the interview for JHS:
"He's a very bright boy, maam, but we have filled our Jewish quota for the year. Have you considered __________?"

Ouch. Looks like some people had to set limits on populations with 1 IQ deviation above the norm.
In my day Trinity was 50% Jewish until High School, when it dropped down to 40%. (The kids who got in on connections or had behavioural problems were weeded out by this point, while the minority population doubled.) I expect that in 25 years, these schools will be 1/4 asian.
264 posted on 10/10/2005 11:57:39 PM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: Coleus
The war on white boys and men goes on.
Nothing to see here. Move on.
265 posted on 10/11/2005 12:00:45 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Yehuda; rmlew

I have to get back to work, but want to say one last thing...

I truly believe that a lot of people -- parents outside of major metropolitan areas -- truly understand what's coming down the pike in regards to some of these kids and how tough the competition is going to get. I've said it before, but nobody seems to believe me. However, it's absolutely true. I've seen some of these kids in Stuy and Bronx Science and some of the prep schools who are absolutely driven.


267 posted on 10/11/2005 12:09:19 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Coleus

I fully expected this thread to be about a family displaced by Katrina/Rita who got a Section 8 voucher and decided to start over in another part of the country. Under such chaotic circumstances, it might have sounded appealing to try a new life in New York City, even if the decision wasn't fully-thought out.

When I read that the family came from Oklahoma, however, I was baffled. If they weren't displaced, then there's absolutely no excuse for the parents not doing their homework on their destination prior to making a cross-country move.

If you want to conduct social cross-pollination experiments, then move to someplace like rural Vermont -- not Brooklyn!!!


268 posted on 10/11/2005 12:09:19 AM PDT by buickmackane (Pineville, LA)
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To: durasell
And you point is, what? Life isn't fair? Life is what it's always been, the winners are the brilliant, the clever and the ruthless.
My point is that the rich in New York are hypocritical ruthless bastards who assuage their egos with tax write offs and perscription medication.

Collegiate? Isn't that where Jim Carroll went?
No. The Catholic Boy went to the nominally Anglican Trinity School, instead of the nominally Dutch Reform Collegiate School. This was before Trinity went co-ed and blew their endowment, so there was a serious rivalry.

269 posted on 10/11/2005 12:11:06 AM PDT by rmlew (In Venezuela, they arrest you for protesting Hugo Chavez. At Columbia U, they merely threaten you.)
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To: rmlew

My point is that the rich in New York are hypocritical ruthless bastards who assuage their egos with tax write offs and perscription medication.


...and young mistresses stashed in newish high rises on the Upper East Side and Murray Hill. Don't forget the young mistresses! Geesh! That's the best part.


270 posted on 10/11/2005 12:13:26 AM PDT by durasell
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To: rmlew

OK, now I know it's time to log off and go to sleep, 'cos I'm gonna have that in my head all night otherwise...

"People who died, died/They were all my friends...and they died" -- Jim Carroll


271 posted on 10/11/2005 12:13:51 AM PDT by buickmackane (Pineville, LA)
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To: oceanperch
chupachra

What tha heck is that? Living in the country was a real culture shock for me ...having grown up in the city....but I love it. :) I had to learn to shoot "varmits".... and we have our share of panther, coyotes and exotics... like an occasional wolf or puma. (let loose from local exotic farms) My ex learned real quick that you don't shoot a skunk in the butt....when it's leaving your yard! lol The stink hung in the air for a week. :)

Anyway...I was slightly annoyed by the local's nosy neighbors at first.....but learned to appreciate that someone would always be watching my back (and my children's) Our big joke was that you couldn't flush the toilet without half the county knowing about it. :)

If your kid does something or gets out of line in some way... they get their tail fanned (yes they still use corporal punishment) and the parents are called immediately. No muss, no fuss. Needless to say, the academics are excellent for such a small, rural school system. We moved to Austin for a few years.....when my daughter went into the 9th grade. They had to bump her to the 10th because she'd already finished the curriculum in the 8th grade.

272 posted on 10/11/2005 1:32:07 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: LaineyDee

Boomers are what they call them Mountain Beavers but they are rodents like nutria.

The one I saw coming home one night was like the size of med. dog walking on it's hind legs and it ran in front of my headlights they are ugley with huge teeth, claw like hands and feet.

They just look scary. Rodents.


273 posted on 10/11/2005 2:27:52 AM PDT by oceanperch (I love my Labradors Kolbe, Porter, Hunter and Yol)
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To: Clemenza

I actually have a sister-in-law from Hicksville. Hicksville, LI that is. I wonder what her attitude towards the schools there are. She used to work in Manhattan and thought that the Midwest was mostly populated by tobacco-chewing, gun-toting, bambi-killing farmers. She was really wrong. Not all of us chew tobacco.


274 posted on 10/11/2005 3:07:00 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Coleus

This is news? When I saw the headline, I thought they must be talking about the teachers, at least that would be news. Give the mom credit for acting on her principles ("If you want diversity, move out of the suburbs."), no matter how screwed up her principles were.


275 posted on 10/11/2005 3:11:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Clemenza
"acted like thugs"

hmmm, sounds like a lot of my ex-classmates. In fact I'm willing to bet that every school has its share of thugs who resemble the ones you went to school with. I grew up in Wisconsin in a midsize city and went to all-white, all-Catholic grade and high schools. Despite the strong discipline, we still had our collection of male misfits. Every town of an appreciable size in America is afflicted by them. It's not just NY or other big towns. But one thing, they never were allowed to disrupt class. One benefit of parochial schools.

276 posted on 10/11/2005 3:24:07 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: sageb1

I know a lot of racist, anti-Black, anti-Semitic whites. Racism knows no strict color line. The problem with libs is not recognizing that anyone can be a racist and not just whites.


277 posted on 10/11/2005 3:26:44 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless

That's a fact that is well known in NYC.


278 posted on 10/11/2005 3:27:57 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Coleus

those kids don't look "white" to me....


279 posted on 10/11/2005 3:29:55 AM PDT by cherry
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To: oceanperch

Ok....we have nutria here too. In fact, they've dug a huge hole through our dam. Those are some of the "varmits" I referred to earlier. I shoot them when I see them. I never see them on the road.....only in the water. :)


280 posted on 10/11/2005 6:55:13 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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