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CA: Man allegedly takes over train with bow and arrow in Montclair
AP - San Diego Union Tribune ^ | October 10, 2005 | AP

Posted on 10/10/2005 2:42:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl

MONTCLAIR – In a scene more reminiscent of the Wild West than modern railways, police shot and wounded a man who allegedly took over a freight train with a bow and arrow.

Juventino Vallejo-Camerena boarded the Union Pacific train at about 10:40 p.m. Sunday as it was stopped for a signal and threatened the engineer and conductor, the only people on board, police Capt. Keith Jones said. The crew members escaped and called police, Jones said.

The man was aboard the train when officers arrived at the scene in western San Bernardino County. The man cocked the bow and pointed the arrow at officers, who opened fire, Jones said.

Vallejo-Camerena suffered gunshot wounds to the left wrist and upper forearm that were not life-threatening, Jones said. The man was treated at Chino Valley Community Hospital and released to authorities.

He was booked into jail for investigation of train robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and resisting arrest. It wasn't known when he would make his first court appearance.

Union Pacific representatives did not immediately return calls for comment Monday.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bowandarrow; railroad; stupidstupidstupid; thwanglist; unionpacific
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1 posted on 10/10/2005 2:42:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

If this isn't the perfect example of Natural Selection, I don't know what is.


2 posted on 10/10/2005 2:43:49 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: calcowgirl
:-D )))

Any knucklehead can hijack a car. Hijacking a train has a certain style.

3 posted on 10/10/2005 2:45:18 PM PDT by RichInOC ("I will treat you all alike...just like s**t."--Richard Marcinko, Second Commandment of SpecWar)
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To: calcowgirl
Juventino Vallejo-Camerena

Let me guess. He was a visiting Spaniard. No? What then?

4 posted on 10/10/2005 2:46:10 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: calcowgirl

Researchers report that in households that have bows and arrows, incidents of train robbing and self-inflicted injuries from snapping bow strings is 457% higher than in households that do not have such weapons.

This is a clarion call to restrict such devices.


5 posted on 10/10/2005 2:46:13 PM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: calcowgirl

I have had a bow for years and still cannot figure out how to "cock it".


6 posted on 10/10/2005 2:47:23 PM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: calcowgirl

I love it! This shows just how pointless and futile gun conrol laws are. Is CA going to ban bows and arrows next?


7 posted on 10/10/2005 2:47:36 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Hey, Salada! I need a new Tagline!)
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To: calcowgirl

how do you "cock" a bow and arrow ??

I've "nocked" an arrow...

We need to email this page to the moron...er I mean reporter...

http://www.hunter-ed.com/sc/course/ch5_nocking_an_arrow.htm


8 posted on 10/10/2005 2:48:27 PM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: calcowgirl

they'll put serial numbers on the bows and arrows-to bad if someone steals it


9 posted on 10/10/2005 2:48:43 PM PDT by catmanblack. (he is the great I AM-)
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To: calcowgirl

It's ism, I tell you!


10 posted on 10/10/2005 2:48:57 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; fish hawk; steelie; RonDog; ...

At least he was smart enough not to try and hi jack a dangerous Amtrak Passenger Train.


11 posted on 10/10/2005 2:51:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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12 posted on 10/10/2005 2:52:31 PM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: calcowgirl

Turn this thing around, we're going to Cuba!


13 posted on 10/10/2005 2:54:00 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: One Proud Dad

You can cock a crossbow. IMHO your average California reporter wouldn't know the difference between a bow and a crossbow, or between a shotgun and a muzzleloader. Weapons are evil filthy nasty things that civilized people don't have anything to do with.

What amazes me is that this clown had the drop on the cops and didn't either release or surrender. What exactly did he think was going to happen in the next two seconds?


14 posted on 10/10/2005 2:54:11 PM PDT by Ostlandr (Hey, Salada! I need a new Tagline!)
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To: calcowgirl
I wouldn't call this Intelligent Design.
15 posted on 10/10/2005 2:55:37 PM PDT by aliquis
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To: calcowgirl

Was it an automatic machine fed cop killing arrow?


16 posted on 10/10/2005 2:55:42 PM PDT by Feiny (When does mama get to hang somebody?)
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To: SmithL; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; fish hawk; steelie; RonDog; ...

It is Arnold's fault. When illegal aliens can't have a driver's license, they will try to hijack a freight train.


Governor vetoes bill to grant licenses to illegal immigrants
AP ^ | 10/7/5 | TOM CHORNEAU


Posted on 10/07/2005 3:48:30 PM PDT by SmithL


SACRAMENTO, (AP) --

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday vetoed legislation that would have granted driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, saying that approving the measure into law could have undermined national security efforts.

The veto was expected and marked the second time Schwarzenegger has rejected such a bill.

"Enacting this bill will result in billions of dollars being spent on a process that ultimately could conflict with federal regulations," he said in his veto message.

The bill's author, Los Angeles Democrat Gil Cedillo, said the veto broke Schwarzenegger's promise to sign a driver's license bill. He also said the rejection jeopardizes the state's preparation for increased federal security requirements for all driver's licenses.

"He broke his promise to work out a resolution," Cedillo said. "We're committed to keeping America secure and our highways safe, and we're committed to that regardless of what the political climate is."

He said he would reintroduce the bill next year.

The action came as the governor faces a weekend deadline to sign or veto hundreds of bills sent to him by the Legislature. He also vetoed two bills related to easing the state's requirement that high school students pass an exit exam to receive a diploma


17 posted on 10/10/2005 2:57:36 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: One Proud Dad
I've got a couple of compound bows, and they take a pretty big pull to get them started, but with a compound pull is hardest at first, and then gets easier as you pull it back. With a 70 pound draw, I'm good for about 20-25 shots and then I've had enough. It's like my .44 magnum, 2 or three wheels and I get the idea already. (2-3 shots on the casull and I'm done.)

With a little practice, and getting the routine down consistently, you'd be surprised how accurate they are, I can hit a 6" circle about half the time with a peep sight and cross hairs.

I'd like to try a recurve bow, that seems more fundamental - I like flintlocks and 1800's cultural stuff, I'd like to shoot whatever bow they used back in the 1750-1850's.

18 posted on 10/10/2005 2:58:03 PM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: windcliff

ping


19 posted on 10/10/2005 2:59:29 PM PDT by stylecouncilor
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To: MD_Willington_1976

"Nocking" is merely getting the string in the little groove on the back end of the arrow. The string will snap into place, and hold the arrow slightly, which lets it stay in position when you pull back and aim.

"Drawing" is the function that prepares the arrow to fire.


20 posted on 10/10/2005 3:04:59 PM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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