Posted on 10/10/2005 5:00:39 AM PDT by gobucks
I.D. is to scientific materialism what Star Wars was to the U.S.S.R.
It is just a matter of time.
Um, not.
The authors said they seek "nothing less than the overthrow of materialism and its cultural legacies."
They think materialism came from science?
what is the origin of materialism in your view?
the anti-science, wacko-nutjobs are at it again...
Well, so long and thanks for all the fish!
Yep. Same communist, anti-science, mindset. They think technology comes out an Oracle, or people "discover" ideas under a rock.
In the sense that "Star Wars" was a fantasy movie with basically no scientific content, yes, it is exactly like ID.
It all goes back to what I've actaully heard in church: It's better to be poor, ignorant and saved than educated and damned. This was at a Church of God in FL and the sermon was about how science was an unending distraction from trying to get people saved. In my personal experience, charismatic chruches are very anti-science. I've even been told that science is Satanic because it goes against a literal interpretation of the Bible. These were people that honestly wanted nothing to do with science yet who don't understand science is responsible for almost everything that makes our modern lives comfortable. How can such ignorance be confronted when it enters into politics and demands that non-science like ID be taught, or who critique evolution without even understanding what evolution means?
Human nature. It is one of the natural ways of looking at the world.
Those "cultural legacies" consist mainly of naziism, communism, and two world wars. That's aside from all the perversion and societal grief...
One of the things that most people don't notice is the influence of materialism on the subject that's at the heart of all real sciences - mathematics. One of the things I think the Discovery Institute should look at is replacing the current materialist mathematics with one more in accord with a Christ-centered universe, a more theistic math. Basically, math that isn't afraid of the "God factor". Until you do that, the materialists are going to continue to hold out in that last stronghold, no matter what happens in biology.
So, you are saying that God is an invention of (the religious discipline of) faith?
The John Templeton Foundation, of West Conshohocken, spends millions each year to explore and encourage a link between science and religion. But, except for a contribution to fund a debate forum in 1999, the foundation has declined to give money to the Discovery Institute.Charles Harper Jr., senior vice president of the Templeton Foundation, said Discovery's involvement in "political issues" was troublesome.
"We want to advance real scientific research," Harper said. "Discovery Institute has never done - has never moved forward - any scientific research. On these deep issues, they've done absolutely nothing."
I reject the premise that ID is non-science.
Some 'scientists' you guys are, huh?...you know, the 'priests' who claim that their so-called science is objective...."above it all"....PFAH!
I thought scientists were curious?
Take the science of nutrition, for example....
Why would it not stir the so-called scientist's curiosity that the original diet 'prescribed' to Adam & Eve was vegetarian?
...and we now know that vegetarians live an average of what? 6 or 7 years longer than meat-eaters?
And what about Leviticus 11? All that stuff about clean/unclean meat?
Doesn't that seem at least a little.....interesting...at least, to all the "Mr. Sciences" out there?....given what we now know about toxins in certain flesh?
And what about history? How could Daniel accurately describe the sequence of Babylonia - MedoPersia - Greece - Rome.....(Nebuchadnezzar's dream) hundreds of years before these kingdoms came to be?
You guys must believe that the Bible was written by a most astute group of historians & writers...who somehow managed to remain anonymous for centuries!
You can believe that if you want....but it sure ain't scientific!
Wow, it sounds like the IDers are taking lessons from the queers. I can't wait for the intelligent design agenda pinglist.
That's funny since ID is not Christian to begin with but is anthesis to the true faith and imminates only from Protestants. Physical evolution is accepted by the Orthodox, Catholic and Lutherin churches, which is well over 75% of Christiandom.
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