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It all goes back to what I've actaully heard in church: It's better to be poor, ignorant and saved than educated and damned. This was at a Church of God in FL and the sermon was about how science was an unending distraction from trying to get people saved. In my personal experience, charismatic chruches are very anti-science. I've even been told that science is Satanic because it goes against a literal interpretation of the Bible. These were people that honestly wanted nothing to do with science yet who don't understand science is responsible for almost everything that makes our modern lives comfortable. How can such ignorance be confronted when it enters into politics and demands that non-science like ID be taught, or who critique evolution without even understanding what evolution means?


11 posted on 10/10/2005 5:57:43 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30
demands that non-science like ID be taught

I reject the premise that ID is non-science.

Some 'scientists' you guys are, huh?...you know, the 'priests' who claim that their so-called science is objective...."above it all"....PFAH!

I thought scientists were curious?
Take the science of nutrition, for example....
Why would it not stir the so-called scientist's curiosity that the original diet 'prescribed' to Adam & Eve was vegetarian?
...and we now know that vegetarians live an average of what? 6 or 7 years longer than meat-eaters?

And what about Leviticus 11? All that stuff about clean/unclean meat?
Doesn't that seem at least a little.....interesting...at least, to all the "Mr. Sciences" out there?....given what we now know about toxins in certain flesh?

And what about history? How could Daniel accurately describe the sequence of Babylonia - MedoPersia - Greece - Rome.....(Nebuchadnezzar's dream) hundreds of years before these kingdoms came to be?

You guys must believe that the Bible was written by a most astute group of historians & writers...who somehow managed to remain anonymous for centuries!

You can believe that if you want....but it sure ain't scientific!

17 posted on 10/10/2005 6:29:03 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: doc30
and the sermon was about how science was an unending distraction from trying to get people saved.

Ehh? Denying science (note this is not the same as technology which is the application of science) while believing in an all power creator God is hypocracy. If you believe in God, then science is the handmaiden of religion, explaining how God created the world to exist.

If you follow this sermon of the mental midgets, best not use any medicens next time you're sick, or drive a car or use a garden hoe or anything else that knowledge of the natural world has created.

One of the main things that made Judeo-Christianity great and allowed our civilizations to move so much ahead is our view of God as the great creator and our order to lead God like lives and thus our drive to figure out how things in God's creation work. In Pagan views, if it doesn't work out, don't try, it's against the gods' will.

23 posted on 10/10/2005 7:25:37 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: doc30
These were people that honestly wanted nothing to do with science yet who don't understand science is responsible for almost everything that makes our modern lives comfortable. How can such ignorance be confronted when it enters into politics and demands that non-science like ID be taught, or who critique evolution without even understanding what evolution means?

Ooops, sorry for directing that tirade at you, should have read the rest of the post before responding.

24 posted on 10/10/2005 7:26:37 AM PDT by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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