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Father apologizes for son's actions (OU bombing, includes timeline)
The Daily Oklahoman ^
| October 9, 2005
| Nolan Clay and Ty McMahan
Posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by MizSterious
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To: PhiKapMom
Jayna Davis was on KSFO in San Francisco with two different talk hosts this week end, pushing her "Third Terrorist" paperback and talking about this new mystery in great detail. Intensely interesting!!!
101
posted on
10/09/2005 6:54:31 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
To: Cvengr
IMHO, the primary line of defense against terrorism is with the common man. If he isn't at liberty to defend himself, is local business and community, family and local government, he will simply become preoccupied with how to gain that freedom. Meanwhile, higher level government will tend to exasperate the problem by artificially constraining the local freedom of the innocent even further Well said! (The whole thing, not just the part above). That is the danger. We are strong and powerful because we are free. When the government starts lying to protect itself, or individuals within it do so, we are less free, and thus less powerful and less able to defend ourselves.
Tactically, the terrorists work through the cracks. You can't have police and military everywhere, but the people *are* everywhere. They must be their own defense, starting with being the eyes and ears for the professional security types, but not ending there by any means.
102
posted on
10/09/2005 6:55:13 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: Cvengr
IMHO, the primary line of defense against terrorism is with the common man. If he isn't at liberty to defend himself, is local business and community, family and local government, he will simply become preoccupied with how to gain that freedom. Meanwhile, higher level government will tend to exasperate the problem by artificially constraining the local freedom of the innocent even further Well said! (The whole thing, not just the part above). That is the danger. We are strong and powerful because we are free. When the government starts lying to protect itself, or individuals within it do so, we are less free, and thus less powerful and less able to defend ourselves.
Tactically, the terrorists work through the cracks. You can't have police and military everywhere, but the people *are* everywhere. They must be their own defense, starting with being the eyes and ears for the professional security types, but not ending there by any means.
103
posted on
10/09/2005 6:55:25 PM PDT
by
El Gato
To: CedarDave
Vinyl - but it's called a Brougham. Pronounced "Brom" except in some circles where it was called a "Bro - Ham" by Bro Hams.
104
posted on
10/09/2005 6:58:01 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: SierraWasp; El Gato; CedarDave; InCons; hispanarepublicana; BlackRain; SauronOfMordor; laz; ...
I forgot about the following story that the medical examiner now thinks the guy may have been killed by anthrax -- another Norman connection story that was covered up:
Another witness bites the dust
© 1997 WorldNetDaily.com
"So, have you heard about the witness in the campaign-financing scandal who mysteriously turned up dead?"
I've been asked some variation of that question every day since Oct. 14 by at least a dozen people -- on the phone, in person, by e-mail. I've had nearly as many requests to report something on the case because of the dearth of news about it in establishment circles.
So here it is, folks. This is all I know. You're not likely to find anything else about it from news sources anywhere on the Internet. You certainly won't hear or read anything about it in the major media off-line. The story died a quick and equally mysterious death -- even in data bases that normally store Associated Press stories for two weeks.
The Oklahoma state Medical Examiner's Office is investigating the death of Ron Miller, 58, who tape-recorded business dealings with Norman and Gene Lum, two already-convicted Democratic Party fund-raisers, who, our sources say, know much more than they have been asked to tell by the Justice Department.
Miller died Sunday, Oct. 12, at Integris Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City after becoming ill at home. The chief investigator in the case has turned it over to the state because the death was not explainable. It is expected to take weeks before testing is complete.
A business partner said he was surprised by Miller's sudden death.
"He went from being healthy to dying in a week," said J. Dell Gordon, president of Mid-America Lamborghini. He said Miller had turned over boxes of material to a congressional oversight committee investigating campaign financing abuses.
Miller owned Gage Corp., an energy company that was sold to Dynamic Energy Resources Inc. in 1993 in a transaction that has been studied by federal and state investigators.
Nora Lum, the chief executive of the Tulsa-based Dynamic Energy, and her husband, Gene, were sentenced last month to 10 months confinement in their home and $30,000 fines after admitting using "straw donors" to conceal their $50,000 in illegal contributions. The money went to the re-election effort of Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., and an unsuccessful bid for Congress by W. Stuart Price of Oklahoma in 1994 and 1995.
Miller tape-recorded phone conversations he had in recent years involving business dealings with the Lums and their associates. More than 150 tapes have been turned over to the FBI.
Miller and Gordon were partners in Mid-America Lamborghini, which planned car dealerships throughout the Midwest and Southwest. Mid-America was formed after Gage was sold to Dynamic.
The state Corporation Commission studied an Oklahoma Gas contract that Dynamic received after it bought the assets of Gage and Creek Systems, a Gage subsidiary.
And that's all she wrote -- for now. Except it is worth noting that the Lums were close associates of the late Ron Brown. Untimely deaths seem to follow this couple around.
According to Nolanda Hill, girlfriend of the late Commerce secretary, the Lums passed $60,000 to Brown through his son, Michael, who had been hired by Dynamic Energy Resources specifically for that purpose.
Last November, another Commerce Department associate, Barbara Wise, was found dead inside her office -- bruised and semi-nude. The results of her autopsy have been withheld from the public.
Have you ever seen so many unnatural and unexplained deaths among such a small group of people in your life? Can you believe the lack of curiosity by the establishment press?
If there is any hope of finding out what happened to Miller it would require the FBI to stay out of the case. Remember, it was Janet Reno's Justice Department that slapped the Lums on the wrist rather than provide them the opportunity to tell what they know about corruption within the Commerce Department, the Democratic Party and the administration in general.
"If Janet Reno was serious about getting to the truth, she would have pressed a tougher case against the Lums and forced them to talk," said Larry Klayman, chairman of Judicial Watch. "The light sentence they received and the limited amount of cooperation they gave in return smacks of one more cover-up to protect bigger fish."
To: PhiKapMom
Can confirm a lot of ME students in Parkview Apartments that love to stare. Parking lot is pretty full at the Islamic Center. I hope you weren't too obvious.
I can't figure out why the FBI and crew didn't confiscate the car, especially if one reporter said that an inventory list was left on the seat. Any ideas? Maybe the FBI is leaving it there to help push the official story that this was just some crazed kit bent on suicide.
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:00:52 PM PDT
by
CedarDave
(America's new fossil energy -- oil shale. Enviro-nazis newest endangered species -- the Shale Darter)
To: Rte66
Check out the story in #105 that I just remembered about -- another cover-up -- this time connected to the Clintons.
To: CedarDave
Fortunately my son's friend who shares an office with him lives in the next complex and next drive. I pretended I had turned in the wrong driveway and fortunately he was home so I had him get in the car with me and drove him to my son's right past those people so my son could drive him back! :) Talk about the hair on the back of my neck standing up -- all I could think of was to get out of there ASAP.
To: PhiKapMom
I was hoping you didn't go alone and was thinking along the lines that you need to have a student in the car with you as a cover.
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:06:58 PM PDT
by
CedarDave
(America's new fossil energy -- oil shale. Enviro-nazis newest endangered species -- the Shale Darter)
To: MizSterious
Oh, daddy apologized? Well then, never mind.
To: LibertyRocks
Thank you for all your hardwork, LibertyRocks. I'll sure check out your blog. I'm not quite sure what to make of the OU bombing, but am just as curious as you are about it. :) chena
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:10:15 PM PDT
by
Chena
(I'm not young enough to know everything)
To: PhiKapMom
Interesting. Will probably go on a 'google quest' for the rest of the night now..lol.thanks alot!
BUT...where is the anthrax connection? Can you help make it simple for me? My husband is fashioning a new tin foil hat right now..he said my current one is looking old and tired...lol!!
To: LibertyRocks
I just read your blog, and LibertyRocks, YOU ROCK! What would we do without people like you. Thank you so much. I've bookmarked your site for future reference. :) chena
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:17:53 PM PDT
by
Chena
(I'm not young enough to know everything)
To: El Gato
Yea, it's even the same sort of circumlocution. If you wanted to say the real deal you might say mierda del toro As in English "caca" is baby talk.Wow, now I can fool my friends and family when I'm feeling the need to say a blue word. LOL And now I'm heading for the online dictionary to find out what "circumlocution" means. I think I get the gist of it, but I'll look it up and praise myself for learning a few new words today. LOL
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:20:32 PM PDT
by
Chena
(I'm not young enough to know everything)
To: CedarDave
"I can't figure out why the FBI and crew didn't confiscate the car, especially if one reporter said that an inventory list was left on the seat. Any ideas? Maybe the FBI is leaving it there to help push the official story that this was just some crazed kit bent on suicide."
One can only hope and pray that they are watching it to see if anyone suspicious goes near it. Next thing we will hear is that PKM is the prime suspect...lol. Kidding aside..they need to impound that car ASAP before the 'integrity' of the scene is compromised anymore. I can not friggin believe this..can any of you?
To: PhiKapMom
I remember the large parts of this story and always wondered how it came out, because JC was somehow connected (not in a bad way--maybe one of these crooks tried to blackmail him when he was on the OCC?).
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:26:28 PM PDT
by
Rte66
To: penelopesire
After the anthrax cases on the east coast, some people who treated Miller originally said he exhibited similar symptoms and some people think he was sent anthrax which killed him because they had no idea what he had at the time.
To: Chena
I didn't even know "caca" was a Spanish word. All this time, I thought it was what kids said when they were avoiding the "s" word.
118
posted on
10/09/2005 7:31:10 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: PhiKapMom
More of the Clinton Downside Legacy? I don't think I'd ever heard about this particular one, thanks for posting this.
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posted on
10/09/2005 7:33:35 PM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
To: Rte66
When JC was at OCC, they tried to set him up -- they played some tapes in one of the races for Congress -- his opponent that got really dirty with the tapes is now the Vice Chairman of OK RATs -- Ben Odom.
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