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Muslim communities fear association with bomber
The Norman Transcript ^ | October 8, 2005 | Carol Cole

Posted on 10/08/2005 4:03:10 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

Muslim communities fear association with bomber

The Norman Transcript

Invites public to mosque for Ramadan

By Carol Cole

Transcript Staff Writer

Distorted media stories have city and student Muslim communities on edge, after it was revealed that bomber Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs roomed with a Muslim student at the Parkview apartments near the University of Oklahoma campus.

However, the FBI has found no connection between the 21-year-old engineering major, who died from an explosion at about 7:30 p.m. Saturday about 100 yards outside OU's Gaylord Family-Oklahoma Memorial Stadium packed with more than 84,000 fans, and the Muslim community, other than other than Hinrichs' rooming with OU finance major Fazal M. Cheema from Pakistan.

And Hinrichs apparently never visited the Masjid An-Nur Islamic mosque that has served the Muslim community at 1304 George Avenue since 1978.

"He had never been to our mosque and he's not associated with our mosque in any way, shape or form," said 44-year-old Mohamed Farid Elyazgi, who has lived in Norman with his family since 1985. "We had never seen him until we saw his picture in the media."

Elyazgi emphasized that Islam forbids suicide and Muslims condemn all acts of violence.

He said many area Muslims have become concerned about television stations filming stories about the bombing in front of the mosque and its sign, fearing it could fan fear and perhaps violence against Muslims or associate the incident with the Islamic Society of Norman.

The community is mindful of what happened after the 1995 Murrah Building bombing, when it was thought there could be Middle Eastern involvement, spurred on by some Oklahoma City stations.

"(There were) a lot of Muslims who got harassed and some hate crimes against them," Elyazgi said, remembering that Stillwater's mosque was shot at.

The Oklahoma City bomb- ers turned out to be homegrown in the form of Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

OU President David Boren warned against jumping to conclusions in an e-mail that went out to students, faculty and staff Thursday.

"To rush to judge others or make assumptions about them on that basis is nothing short of prejudice," wrote Boren, emphasizing the campus' low crime rate. "It has no place in America and it certainly has no place at the University of Oklahoma."

Elyazgi is especially concerned because two of his six children attend the University of Oklahoma.

"I think the concern right now is because some of the Muslim women, they wear their scarfs and they become a target for everyone to identify them," he said.

When he first heard the news about the bomb, it sent chills and a silent prayer through him.

"To be honest, when I heard about the bombing and that it was a suicide bomb, I just prayed to God that no one was hurt and I hoped that no Muslims were connected to that because we don't need that here," Elyazgi said.

After 9/11, emotions were high and Elyazgi kept his children at home for several days.

"Because you never know how people are going to react," he said. "We're just asking people to be understanding as usual. There was a big difference in how Oklahomans reacted to 9/11 than the way they reacted to the 1995 bombing.

"We are part of society here and we know that one of the things great about America is the diversity in America and the acceptance of different people from different places. They come together and they live in peace. We'd like to see our country prosper."

Elyazgi said they want to invite people to the mosque to see Muslim culture for themselves, with today being the third day of their holy month Ramadan.

"Anybody is welcome to come and eat with us and we welcome them to the mosque," he said.

There are special night prayers and dinners as Muslims break their all-day fast from dawn to sunset.

"So anybody who would like to see what we are all about and how we live and how we try to uplift our souls in this holy month of ours and try to share the hunger and the thirst of others," Elyazgi said. "It's just a beautiful atmosphere. I wish you would come and join us and how we are very peaceful and caring about each other."

Carol Cole 366-3538 ccole@normantranscript.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: crymeariver; hinrichs; normanbombing; oklahoma; oubombing; whiningmuslims
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To: Grut

Quoting each other? The only thing that has not been confirmed by the media in Oklahoma is the statement by PhiKapMom about the eyewitness. Everything else has been confirmed and most by KOCO Ch. 5 as well which is a "sister station" of the Norman Transcript.

Seems there are some like yourself who will ignore what's right in front of them...


101 posted on 10/08/2005 7:56:20 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

I was following the first thread on this story - information was dripping slow, guess the info is non-existant in Europe!


102 posted on 10/08/2005 7:56:28 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Grut

You've been here exactly one month longer than I have... but have you learned anything?


103 posted on 10/08/2005 7:58:48 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: Grut

I don't know how many mosques there are in Norman (that's a stretch) but the recent suicide and several past terrorists have been reported to have attended a mosque in that area known to foster Wahhabism (sp?).


104 posted on 10/08/2005 8:00:51 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Grut
Does anyone here have any facts that would contradict this report?

I doubt it.

105 posted on 10/08/2005 8:01:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: LibertyRocks
Disassociation is TOTALLY INADEQUATE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strong, immediate, & continuous condemnation of ALL MUSLIM TERRORIST ATTACKS AROUND THE WORLD, is the ONLY behavior that can protect "peaceful" Muslims from retaliation!

Don't believe me?
See what happens if there is an attack on the NY subway system.......
106 posted on 10/08/2005 8:04:06 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict contructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: LibertyRocks
There are no "Muzlim Communities." When an immigrant, whatever his or her race, or religion, applies for American citizenship and becomes an American they lose all class distinctions.

We must oppose efforts to put everyone in a certain group determined by government to be their "proper" ethnic, racial, economic, or social division.

By grading everyone and putting them in an assigned group government can better sustain class warfare.

If we are all Americans then we all live in the "American community."
107 posted on 10/08/2005 8:05:23 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: LibertyRocks
There are no "Muzlim Communities." When an immigrant, whatever his or her race, or religion, applies for American citizenship and becomes an American they lose all class distinctions.

We must oppose efforts to put everyone in a certain group determined by government to be their "proper" ethnic, racial, economic, or social division.

By grading everyone and putting them in an assigned group government can better sustain class warfare.

If we are all Americans then we all live in the "American community."
108 posted on 10/08/2005 8:06:01 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: LibertyRocks

There are no "Muzlim Communities." When an immigrant, whatever his or her race, or religion, applies for American citizenship and becomes an American they lose all class distinctions.

We must oppose efforts to put everyone in a certain group determined by government to be their "proper" ethnic, racial, economic, or social division.

By grading everyone and putting them in an assigned group government can better sustain class warfare.

If we are all Americans then we all live in the "American community."


109 posted on 10/08/2005 8:06:27 AM PDT by R.W.Ratikal
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

I did recall and looked up one article printed in the UK it was in the Guardian Unlimited. The article they ran was a short AP article. Here is the link...

Okla. Student Who Committed Suicide ID'd
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5317456,00.html


110 posted on 10/08/2005 8:07:05 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: 1rudeboy

Your moniker fits you well...

FACT: Hinrichs roommate is from Pakistan and he ignored the large cache of explosives confiscated by the FBI from within his apartment.


111 posted on 10/08/2005 8:12:12 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: R.W.Ratikal

Yes, you are right... we all live in the American Community which is being threatened by RADICAL people who align themselves with the RADICAL sect of Muslim faith.

I have no problem with peace-loving, respectful, honest people no matter what race, ethnicity or socio-economic class etc...

I do have a problem with those AMERICANS or IMMIGRANTS or VISA HOLDERS that ignore the obvious ties this particular mosque has with KNOWN TERRORISTS!

Do I think all Muslims who attend this mosque are terrorists - NO! Do I think all Muslims should be forced to leave our country - NO!


112 posted on 10/08/2005 8:18:30 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: G Larry

I agree with your statement G Larry - 100%.


113 posted on 10/08/2005 8:19:35 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Americanexpat; laz

Jayna Davis was on the Glenn Beck show yesterday, she's working on this now.

She said there is a large cell at Norman, and it's now very active again -- that Hamas and al Qaeda are both there at Norman.


114 posted on 10/08/2005 8:19:36 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: LibertyRocks

FACT: You were not there when the FBI raided his apartment.


115 posted on 10/08/2005 8:21:56 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: texasbluebell

The information about these cells' existence is confirmed by our own FBI, and DHS! Of course, the naysayers that have been popping onto this thread will claim this deserves no attention whatsoever... IMO they are the ones who are failing to keep an open mind.


116 posted on 10/08/2005 8:23:04 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: benjaminjjones

Take a look:

http://www.jaynadavis.com/main.html


117 posted on 10/08/2005 8:23:55 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: 1rudeboy; LibertyRocks; PhiKapMom

What would you consider a fact? Most of what has been reported has been verified by eyewitnesses and law enforcement. Some even questioned reliable eyewitnesses like PhiKapMom. So apparently not even eyewitnesses would satisfy some folks--yet you asked if LibertyRocks was there. If LR was there, would you believe what LR reported? I doubt it.


118 posted on 10/08/2005 8:25:51 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: 1rudeboy

No, but many reporters were and there is plenty of video showing the items removed from his apartment... Are you suggesting that the FBI is lying about what they found there? Why would they do that if this was a "lone bomber" which is what they are trying to say even now? It wouldn't serve their agenda, and doesn't make sense.

If you have information pertaining to this event, please share.. if not, I don't have time to deal with your efforts at trying to cover-up what most people would at least consider suspicious events...


119 posted on 10/08/2005 8:26:03 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

"Invites public to mosque for Ramadan"

G-e-e-e-t outta my way. I'm going to the Norman
Mosque for Ramadan!




120 posted on 10/08/2005 8:28:38 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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