Discovery Institute's “Wedge Document” How Darwinist Paranoia Fueled an Urban Legend

Evolution News ^ | 10/07/05 | Staff

[PatrickHenry]

Hi, BB! Thanks for the ping.

Junior, another thread to catalog.

[betty boop]

Hello Patrick! You're welcome!

Hi Junior!

[PatrickHenry]

Here's an essay by an Islamic creationist, describing and praising the "Wedge Strategy." The author was one of the "experts" who testified for ID at the famous Kansas hearings.
Why Muslims Should Support Intelligent Design, By Mustafa Akyol.

[Alamo-Girl]

Just some thoughts? Jeepers, betty boop, what an understatement!

Your magnificient essay-post strikes right at the very heart of the deficiency in science these days, the reason so many are troubled and the objective of the Intelligent Design movement.

[Junior]

The CrevoSci Archive Just one of the many services of Darwin Central "The Conspiracy that Cares"

• PatrickHenry's famous List o' Links

CrevoSci threads for the past week:

1. 2005-10-08 Famed author takes on Kansas: Rushdie bemoans role of religion in public life
2. 2005-10-07 Descent of Man in Dover (Why acceptance of ID not inevitable.)
3. 2005-10-07 Discovery Institute's “Wedge Document” How Darwinist Paranoia Fueled an Urban Legend
4. 2005-10-07 Dover, PA Evolution Trial [daily thread for 07 Oct]
5. 2005-10-07 Evolution and intelligent design Life is a cup of tea
6. 2005-10-07 Let 'intelligent design' and science rumble
7. 2005-10-07 The Las Cruces Fossil Human Footprints
8. 2005-10-07 The Map that Changed the World [in 1815]
9. 2005-10-07 University of Idaho Bans All Alternatives to Evolution
10. 2005-10-07 Why Intelligent Design Is Going to Win
11. 2005-10-06 Faith, Science and the Persecution of Richard Sternberg
12. 2005-10-06 Scientist defends Big Bang and God
13. 2005-10-06 Seeing Creation and Evolution in Grand Canyon (quote below is the most significant item)
14. 2005-10-06 The Mouth of the South Side (Carl Everett on Gays, Evolution, Bush and Kanye West)
15. 2005-10-06 U of I president:teach only evolution in {University}science classes (Connection to PA court fight)
16. 2005-10-06 Witness: 'Design' Replaced 'Creation'
17. 2005-10-06 Witness: Movement's roots in creationism (Dover trial 10/6/05)
18. 2005-10-05 Professor, teachers to testify in intelligent-design trial [Dover, PA, 05 Oct]
19. 2005-10-05 Supernova Storm Wiped Out Mammoths?
20. 2005-10-05 The Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2005 goes to Yves Chauvin, Robert H. Grubbs and Richard R. Schrock
21. 2005-10-04 A space station view on giant lightning (May play role in global warming!)
22. 2005-10-04 Ancient Peruvians Loved Their Spuds
23. 2005-10-04 "Cardinal backs evolution and ""intelligent design"""
24. 2005-10-04 Potatoes came from Peru, US study finds
25. 2005-10-04 Space Scientists Seek Sprites, Elves and Jets
26. 2005-10-04 Spider fooled into sex by drop-dead male
27. 2005-10-04 The Bottom Line: Darwinism Promotes Social Disintegration
28. 2005-10-04 The Nobel Prize in Physics 2005 is awarded to Roy J. Glauber, John L. Hall and Theodor W. Hänsch
29. 2005-10-03 How Long Did It Take to Deposit the Geologic Strata? (Hint: Maybe it wasn't millions of years)
30. 2005-10-03 Live from Pennsylvania: Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
31. 2005-10-03 Returning to Dover [evolution trial in Dover, PA: week 2]
32. 2005-10-03 Systemic determinants of gene evolution and function
33. 2005-10-03 The timeless truth of creation

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CrevoSci Warrior Freepdays for the month of October:
 

2003-10-09 antiRepublicrat 2004-10-10 Antonello 1998-10-18 AZLiberty 1999-10-14 blam 2000-10-19 cogitator 2001-10-21 Coyoteman 2004-10-26 curiosity 1998-10-29 Dataman 2000-10-29 dila813

2001-10-14 dread78645 1998-10-03 Elsie 1998-10-17 f.Christian 2002-10-08 FairOpinion 2001-10-26 Genesis defender 2000-10-09 Gil4 2000-10-08 guitarist 2004-10-10 joeclarke 1998-10-03 js1138

2001-10-24 k2blader 2000-10-08 LibWhacker 2002-10-25 m1-lightning 2001-10-10 Michael_Michaelangelo 2001-10-09 Mother Abigail 2004-10-25 MRMEAN 2004-10-03 Nicholas Conradin 1999-10-28 PatrickHenry 1998-10-01 Physicist

1998-10-25 plain talk 1998-10-12 Restorer 2005-10-04 ret_medic 2001-10-23 RightWingNilla 2004-10-09 snarks_when_bored 2002-10-22 sumocide 2004-10-21 WildHorseCrash 2001-10-23 yankeedame 2002-10-20 Z in Oregon

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In Memoriam
Fallen CrevoSci Warriors:

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ALS Area Freeper Aric2000 Askel5 bluepistolero churchillbuff ConservababeJen DittoJed2 dob Ed Current

f.Christian followerofchrist general_re goodseedhomeschool gopwinsin04 gore3000 Jedigirl JesseShurun kharaku Le-Roy

Marathon medved metacognative Modernman NoKinToMonkeys Ogmios peg the prophet Phaedrus Phoroneus pickemuphere

ret_medic RickyJ SeaLion Selkie Shubi Tomax tpaine WaveThatFlag xm177e2

Bring back Modernman and SeaLion!

[PatrickHenry]

Thanks for plugging The List-O-Links, but notice that it's hyphenated, not written like an Irish name.

[longshadow]

Wow -- thanks for demonstrating that creationists/IDers are just as dishonest and irrational in their "spin" as they are in their attempts to critique science.

Let's see how they spin THIS:

"Intelligent design is just the Logos theology of John's Gospel restated in the idiom of information theory," William Dembski, one of the movement's chief proponents, said in a 1999 interview in Touchstone, a Christian magazine that Forrest cited in her testimony.

[emphasis added]
source: http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/88606/

IDers; hoist on the petard of Dembski's own words....

[Doctor Stochastic]

...like an Irish name.

List O'Links
Paddy O'Furniture
Mark O'Polo

[Doctor Stochastic]

The Thomas More lawyers seem to be representing their clients rather well. They do not seem to present their client's cases well.

[PatrickHenry]

Four o'clock
Theory o'Evolution. But ...
The List-O-Links.

It's all about the O'

[js1138]

I do believe there will be an appeal based on incompetent counsel.

[Tim Long]

Actually the unitarianism thing probably isn't correct. I looked it up after I posted and the source had changed its info. I've noticed people who wish to portray our nation as originally irreligious use a lot of BS info, like portraying George Washington as a deist. Deists don't get baptized : ) I even wonder about the purposes of the Jefferson Bible. Jefferson appears to have been a Godly man. But about Newton, he said "I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by those who were inspired. I study the Bible daily." A unitarian wouldn't believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God; they deny too much of it.

[js1138]

Isaac Newton attempted to secretly publish essays attacking the concept of the Trinity. He was afraid to publish them in england. (I wonder why.)

[dr_lew]

A unitarian wouldn't believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God; they deny too much of it.

That's the Unitarians. Newton's beliefs were personal and were unitarian in nature. That is, he firmly rejected the doctrine of the Trinity, based on his historical study of the Arian heresy.

Cf. Westfall, The Life of Isaac Newton, under Arianism in the index. "The mere thought of trinitarianism, the 'fals infernal religion,' was enough to fan Newton into a rage." And Newton blamed it for what he saw as the degraded practice of Christianity, represented chiefly by Roman Catholicism, but not excepting Anglicanism.

Newton came near to sacrificing his academic career for his beliefs, as he was prepared to refuse ordination into the Anglican Church, which had been a requirement for his position at Cambridge, and would have involved swearing to beliefs abhorrent to him. Fortunately, we may say, some adroit politicing voided this requirement in the nick of time.

[Doctor Stochastic]

The Unitarians (as opposed as to unitarians) seem to have three beliefs, The Fatherhood Of God, The Brotherhood Of Man, and The Neighborhood Of Boston.

[Junior]

Sorry. I fixed it for the next posting.

[KMJames]

Thanks for posting Heartlander.

I had no doubt that the "wedgie boogieman" was the result of the excitable scientific materialists.

[KMJames]

correction:...the creation of the excitable scientific materialists.

[PatrickHenry]

Another of the "fallen" -- Kevin Curry.

[Junior]

Thanks. I'm beginning to feel like a graves registrar. Too many fallen over the years...