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Mary Mapes Hits Bloggers and MSM in Upcoming Book--But What's With the Kurtz Excerpts? (Book Gone)
Editor & Publisher ^ | October, 7, 2005 | E&P Staff

Posted on 10/07/2005 12:03:12 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

NEW YORK Howard Kurtz of The Washington Post might have a bigger scoop than he thought. In his online column this morning, as a final, almost throwaway item, he quoted from the first chapter of the forthcoming book by former CBS producer Mary Mapes that covers, among other things, her controversial experience with the Dan Rather/Bush/National Guard “60 Minutes” segment.

Among the excerpts: "I was incredulous that the mainstream press -- a group I'd been a part of for nearly twenty-five years and thought I knew -- was falling for the blogs' critiques. I was shocked at the ferocity of the attack. I was terrified at CBS's lack of preparedness in defending us. I was furious at the unrelenting attacks on Dan. And I was helpless to do anything about any of it."

He said he had drawn the brief excerpts from the first chapter, which had been posted (as sometimes happens with new books) at amazon.com. He also provided a link. But the link goes to a dead Amazon page. In fact, the book (which is due out on Nov. 8) seems to have disappeared completely from Amazon, except for its audio version (Mapes narrates herself).

Barnes and Noble still has the book, which is cazled “Truth and Duty, “ online, with the Nov. 8 pub date (and no excerpt). The book is still featured at the site of the publisher, St. Martin's Press, which promises an excerpt-but not until pub day.

Calls to a publicist at St. Martin's have not yet been returned.

One clue in the mystery is that Kurtz writes that he had been meaning to get to this item “for some time,” so perhaps the excerpt got pulled a few days ago. But it doesn't explain why the entire book has gone missing at Amazon.

Among the excerpts quoted by Kurtz:

-- “And right now, on the Internet, it appeared everything was falling apart. I had a real physical reaction as I read the angry online accounts. It was something between a panic attack, a heart attack, and a nervous breakdown. My palms were sweaty; I gulped and tried to breathe. . . . The little girl in me wanted to crouch and hide behind the door and cry my eyes out."

--"Faxing changes a document in so many ways, large and small, that analyzing a memo that had been faxed -- -in some cases not once, but twice -- -was virtually impossible. The faxing destroyed the subtle arcs and lines in the letters. The characters bled into each other. The details of how the typed characters failed to line up perfectly inside each word were lost."

--"To these people, there was no such thing as unbiased mainstream reporting, certainly not when it came to criticism of the president, no matter how tepid. To them, there was Fox News and everything else -- and everything else was liberal and unfair."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dummiefunnies; fakebutaccurate; howardkurtz; mapes; marymapes; rathergate
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To: conservative in nyc

"What about the suspect memos by that long-dead Guard official? "Faxing changes a document in so many ways, large and small, that analyzing a memo that had been faxed -- -in some cases not once, but twice -- -was virtually impossible. The faxing destroyed the subtle arcs and lines in the letters. The characters bled into each other. The details of how the typed characters failed to line up perfectly inside each word were lost."


She shoots her own foot with this lousy excuse.


If it is a faxed document and faxing detorts the document, then you cannot say it is real or not. It'sa FAX and therefore open to being distorted from the beginning.

She's a dog chasing her own tail.


She and Dan let their own BIASES write this "story" not the facts and they got CAUGHT.


41 posted on 10/07/2005 1:54:33 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.)
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To: adgirl
The utter arrogance of this woman to assume that just because she knows nothing of typesetting, fonts, or air force protocols from the 1970s that the rest of the country shares her ignorance is bewildering to me.

She's counting on it. I call it the "Argument from Ignorance".

She says, "I don't understand the technical details of why the documents are forgeries, therefore the charges must be phony".

You hear it all time, as in, "I don't know what caused those lights in the sky, therefore they must be extraterrestial spacecraft".

Some people just don't have the mental capacity to realize that what you don't know isn't evidence for anything.

42 posted on 10/07/2005 1:55:59 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: PJ-Comix; Howlin
Fellow digital McCarthyites and hyperconservatives:

As a "hyperconservative" who has "manipulated the Internet" (by googling her name and book title), the first chapter of the Mapes book has now been embargoed until November 8. This is probably because Mary Mapes has promised to appear on 20/20 and Larry King Live.

She's being represented by Leigh Bureau. Their website promises the book will offer "groundbreaking new information on Bush's Guard career" and "An expose of the emergence of “digital McCarthysim” as conservative bloggers manipulate the internet."

Sounds like Howlin is going to be posting another live thread or two in November as Mapes smears Free Republic on air.
43 posted on 10/07/2005 1:56:29 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: PJ-Comix

More like "Sleuth and Snooty"?


44 posted on 10/07/2005 2:08:31 PM PDT by Rockitz (Geena YES, Hill NO!)
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To: PJ-Comix
"... The little girl in me wanted to crouch and hide behind the door and cry my eyes out."

How about this, instead: "The insect hiding under a rock in me wanted to scurry from the terrible, terrible sunlight".

45 posted on 10/07/2005 2:17:48 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Methadras

Mary,

1) First of all, get rid of that 1970s "I hate men" perm. Get a friggin makeover.

2) Even your own family is embarassed at how freakin' liberal you have become. Get a life.

3) I thought liberal women were strong - why do you need to crouch into a corner and cry like a baby?

You suck. You literally suck.


46 posted on 10/07/2005 2:19:41 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: PJ-Comix

Mary,

All you need to do is to appear at next year's Emmy Awards. You'll get a freakin' stand ovation just like your buddy, Dan Rather.


47 posted on 10/07/2005 2:20:28 PM PDT by GianniV
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To: Republican Red
"To them, there was Fox News and everything else -- and everything else was liberal and unfair."

I admit I am one of "them"

48 posted on 10/07/2005 2:22:36 PM PDT by Rockitz (Geena YES, Hill NO!)
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To: PJ-Comix
-- “And right now, on the Internet, it appeared everything was falling apart. I had a real physical reaction as I read the angry online accounts. It was something between a panic attack, a heart attack, and a nervous breakdown. My palms were sweaty; I gulped and tried to breathe. . . . The little girl in me wanted to crouch and hide behind the door and cry my eyes out."

TRANSLATION: Those ***holes at Free Republic caught us in a flat out lie!

--"Faxing changes a document in so many ways, large and small, that analyzing a memo that had been faxed -- -in some cases not once, but twice -- -was virtually impossible. The faxing destroyed the subtle arcs and lines in the letters. The characters bled into each other. The details of how the typed characters failed to line up perfectly inside each word were lost."

TRANSLATION: No matter how many times we tried to claim they were authentic, nobody believed our BS story!

--"To these people, there was no such thing as unbiased mainstream reporting, certainly not when it came to criticism of the president, no matter how tepid. To them, there was Fox News and everything else -- and everything else was liberal and unfair."

TRANSLATION: "If it hadn't been for those g-ddamned FReepers, we would have gotten away with it!"

49 posted on 10/07/2005 2:35:50 PM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: PJ-Comix
"Faxing changes a document in so many ways, large and small, that analyzing a memo that had been faxed -- -in some cases not once, but twice -- -was virtually impossible. The faxing destroyed the subtle arcs and lines in the letters. The characters bled into each other. The details of how the typed characters failed to line up perfectly inside each word were lost."

Problem with this reasoning is that faxing makes the copy DIFFERENT from the original. The problem with the fake document was that it looked the SAME as the default Microsoft settings.

50 posted on 10/07/2005 2:44:58 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage
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To: dinasour

The other thing she's ignorant about is that some people actually wanted to serve in the military even during Viet Nam. She doesn't realize that during the late 60s and 70s not everyone was out protesting and making a**es of themselves. There were people who gasp didn't agree with protesters or the democrats. She cannot fathom anyone wanting to go to Viet Nam therefore she assumes Bush was trying to get out of serving rather than just shutting up and doing his duty which I guarantee you a lot more people were doing back then.


51 posted on 10/07/2005 3:29:04 PM PDT by adgirl
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To: adgirl
The other thing she's ignorant about is that some people actually wanted to serve in the military

I was following this very closely at the time. This was part of a detailed and coordinated smear campaign.

The actual charges were pretty insignificant, even if true. But I don't think they were trying to say he was avoiding duty. IMHO, this was a leg in a chain of accusations that was supposed to establish that he had to get out early to avoid the physical.

There were going to be further "revelations" to come that would charge that the President was/is a cocaine addict. Something that was calculated to hurt him with his base.

52 posted on 10/07/2005 4:12:30 PM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: michaelbfree
I gulped and tried to breathe. . . .

Isn't that pretty much how Hillary described her [fake] reaction when Bill [allegedly] finally told her Monica really was delivering BJs with the pizza?

53 posted on 10/07/2005 4:20:06 PM PDT by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: PJ-Comix
-- “And right now, on the Internet, it appeared everything was falling apart. I had a real physical reaction as I read the angry online accounts. It was something between a panic attack, a heart attack, and a nervous breakdown. My palms were sweaty; I gulped and tried to breathe. . . . The little girl in me wanted to crouch and hide behind the door and cry my eyes out."


54 posted on 10/07/2005 4:34:03 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: RasterMaster
THE MAPES
OF RATHER

MARY: "It don't matter. I'll be all aroun' in the dark. I'll be ever'where--wherever you can look. Wherever there's a fax so hungry journalists can be duped, I'll be there. Wherever there's a blog beatin' up a lib, I'll be there. I'll be in the way DUmmies yell when they're mad--an' I'll be in the way FReepers laugh when they're amused an' they know the moonbats are barkin'. An' when the people are watchin' the stuff we make up, an' believin' the stories we report, I'll be there too."

DAN: "I don't understan' it, Mary."

MARY: "Me neither, Dan, but jus' sump'n I've been thinkin' about."

55 posted on 10/07/2005 4:40:54 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Crouching Producer, Hidden Drama Queen)
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To: dinasour; adgirl; PJ-Comix
The actual charges were pretty insignificant, even if true. But I don't think they were trying to say he was avoiding duty. IMHO, this was a leg in a chain of accusations that was supposed to establish that he had to get out early to avoid the physical.

I think the next story they were going to fabricate was the reason why W wanted to avoid the physical -- to avoid detection of cocaine use.

56 posted on 10/07/2005 11:00:30 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Wherever there's a fax so hungry journalists can be duped, I'll be there.

Phone (212) 975-4321 Fax (212) 975-1998

57 posted on 10/07/2005 11:05:00 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Okay, this is too ripe. I was reading this paragraph, saying to myself, When does she say she gulped for air? and then GOBSMACK! she wrote it:

"And right now, on the Internet, it appeared everything was falling apart. I had a real physical reaction as I read the angry online accounts. It was something between a panic attack, a heart attack, and a nervous breakdown. My palms were sweaty; I gulped and tried to breathe."


58 posted on 10/07/2005 11:07:44 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: dinasour
Some people just don't have the mental capacity to realize that what you don't know isn't evidence for anything.

That's it, in a nutshell.

With every argument, Mary Mapes is proving that she is just too friggin' dumb to understand why she and Dan got caught.

59 posted on 10/07/2005 11:23:36 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: PJ-Comix
"Faxing changes a document in so many ways, large and small, that analyzing a memo that had been faxed -- -in some cases not once, but twice -- -was virtually impossible.

Proportional spacing doesn't change just because it's faxed you ding-a-ling. It doesn't need to be "analyzed" because it's an obvious forgery. I can't believe they are still defending that garbage, they're insane.

60 posted on 10/07/2005 11:44:24 PM PDT by Reagan is King (Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it)
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