[Thatcherite]

No, actually, I was wondering how *you* feel about the lunacy of the your fellow "Believers in the Lord" on this thread. Several of them have come out in favor of slavery due to Scripture, and most of the rest have pointedly failed to denounce such a position. I was thinking that perhaps you'd like to be the first to actually deplore such statements, but apparently not:

I'll just clarify. As of now, we don't have a single unambiguous denouncement of slavery from anyone on the creationist side of the debate in this thread. Every single creationist so far has picked one of the following options:

• Stated approval for slavery, on biblical authority
• Got very angry when asked the question. Curiously, all the anger was reserved for the questioner, not for the freepers who endorse slavery on biblical grounds.
• Weaseling about "bond service" and "indenture" as if giving it a prettier name might make it better
• Unambiguously condemned slavery. Oops, no no-one actually did that on the creationist side
• Equated slavery with taxation. (I laughed until I stopped)

I had high hopes that we might get the first clear denouncement from Eleni; well actually I didn't. Clarity on this issue from those who get all their morals from the bible seems to be in short supply (even that isn't quite true, the pro-slavery crowd are admirably clear, just sickening)

[Thatcherite]

Chirping Crickets Placemarker, and off to bed for me. It is hard work since I got promoted to Blackguard. You lesser minions of DC just carry on.

[jennyp]

I never thought I'd have to do this on FreeRepublic, but here it goes:

I, an atheist conservative, forthrightly and without reservation state that slavery is morally wrong.

You'd think this would go without saying on a conservative website populated mostly by Americans, but there ya go.

C'mon you creationists, stand up & be counted for or against slavery! Taxesareforever did. Are you going to let him/her hang out there all by themselves?

[VadeRetro]

Anyone defending creationism is "Witnessing for the Lord." It pretty much doesn't matter what the content is, you aren't supposed to criticize so long as the person is "witnessing."

Yes, this would be a good way to get away with advocating practically anything if enough people played by those rules.

[eleni121]

The Bible needs no interpretation from me on racism slavery or creation etc and especially not to clarify or provide an exigesis for you.

I will let one of your own do it for me.

The leading evolutionist, Stephen Jay Gould who is an atheist and marxist as well, wrote in his "Ontogeny and Phylogeny", Belknap-Harvard Press, Cambridge, MA, USA, pp. 127–128, 1977:

‘Biological arguments for racism may have been common before 1859, but they increased by orders of magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory.’

[Doctor Stochastic]

Equated slavery with taxation. (I laughed until I stopped)

Similar to the Marxist equating of slavery with wages.

Of course, taxation isn't slavery; it's theft.

[Coyoteman]

As of now, we don't have a single unambiguous denouncement of slavery from anyone on the creationist side of the debate in this thread. Every single creationist so far has picked one of the following options:

• Stated approval for slavery, on biblical authority
• Got very angry when asked the question. Curiously, all the anger was reserved for the questioner, not for the freepers who endorse slavery on biblical grounds.
• Weaseling about "bond service" and "indenture" as if giving it a prettier name might make it better
• Unambiguously condemned slavery. Oops, no no-one actually did that on the creationist side
• Equated slavery with taxation. (I laughed until I stopped)

I had high hopes that we might get the first clear denouncement from Eleni; well actually I didn't. Clarity on this issue from those who get all their morals from the bible seems to be in short supply (even that isn't quite true, the pro-slavery crowd are admirably clear, just sickening)

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[taxesareforever] #375 My position on slavery? I don't consider it is wrong to have slaves.

This is the first of the posts being discussed. (Incidentally it was removed by the moderators shortly after it was posted--they are correct, we don't need this kind of thinking on FR, no matter the source.)

In spite of many opportunities, as Thatcherite points out, those on the creationist side of the debate in this thread somehow can't seem to say "This view of slavery is absolute BS!" From the quotes earlier on this thread, it seems that they think there is some justification for slavery in the bible.

I think jennyp summed it up rather well: I, an atheist conservative, forthrightly and without reservation state that slavery is morally wrong.

Well done, jennyp. I agree as well. Now, can any of those on the creationist side other side join in too?