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Miers is dead in the water
Town Hall ^ | 10/06/05 | Laura Hollis

Posted on 10/06/2005 7:15:47 PM PDT by jdhljc169

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To: wardaddy

When we get to 100, we will be told we need to amend the constitution to have 3 senators per state.

Thank God that for as bad as the Republican leadership can be, the democratic leadership is at least 5 times worse.


341 posted on 10/06/2005 10:36:08 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: flashbunny

yes.

we are still stuck with these damned RINOs


342 posted on 10/06/2005 10:37:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (i'm all outta bot i can't live without you,)
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To: paulat

Are you that dense? I have read them all but more important I understand what I read. Unfortunately for you I also can tell when quotes from it are being used incorrectly and in opposition to the point of the paper.


343 posted on 10/06/2005 10:37:26 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

....whatever....


344 posted on 10/06/2005 10:38:53 PM PDT by paulat
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To: griffin
what actual practice? What are you talking about? Do you think Renquist, Scalia and Thomas all had identical career experience b4 nomination?

I refer to the people who actually get on the Supreme Court, and it's absurd of you to say that qualifications don't matter just because the constitution doesn't spell them out. Even Rehnquist and Thomas, who were two of the weaker-credentialed nominees, still had far better and more significant careers than Miers.

I don't have a litmus test, but if she'd either served as a judge, practiced law before the Supreme Court, or written a well-researched book on constitutional law I would have a heck of a lot more respect for her nomination than I actually do. As of now I see nothing to praise.

345 posted on 10/06/2005 10:39:55 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: Blessed

Without any personal animus, let me just say that I am a strong evangelical christian, and wish to say that I do not personally believe the conservative opposition to Harriet is driven by hatred of christianity.


346 posted on 10/06/2005 10:41:12 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SpringheelJack

That is the only way Presidents have made such a choice or COULD make such choices. It all boils down to who the President thinks he should nominate.


347 posted on 10/06/2005 10:42:26 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: SpringheelJack

Because perhaps she's not as simple as some take her to be and perhaps she's not merely a one trick pony.....

Is it easier for you to judge her motives by her deeds or by an answer to a question....in which the rational behind the answer is unknown?


348 posted on 10/06/2005 10:42:38 PM PDT by griffin
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To: paulat

Pay no heed to justshutupandtakeit-it's not just his name, it's his philosophy.


349 posted on 10/06/2005 10:43:12 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: SpringheelJack

I'm not sure. But I'm thinking there are two explanations. One is that she is a dottering old woman, in which case that will be clear in the hearings and she will be gone.

The other is that, having spent the last years of her life vetting candidates and preparing them for questioning by the senate, she has a keen sense of what to say to the democrats when they ask her questions. And the "correct" answer to this question for her was really Warren Burger.

I'd love to hear her explain WHY that was her answer. And maybe her explanation would scare me.


350 posted on 10/06/2005 10:48:23 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: griffin
Apology accepted, however, rationale is not.

yeah...and i think that to answer those questions you should do a little more to educate yourself on Ms.Meirs fruit before you call your sister in Christ to the carpet in front of others and do harm in other's eyes to what could be a very strong ally. What your doing is nothing more than gossiping about things you have no concrete evidence of. Your hypothesizing!

You declared me a gossip for referencing a news publication. That is an assault on my character. I wasn't referencing the national Enquirer. I stated factually what was in the article, then acknowledged their reputation as dented. What I did not state was that everything they print is inaccurate, it is not. You seem to sweep aside WAPO as nothing more than the National Enquirer, and that is factually untrue.

Matter of fact, I am not even sceptical of WAPO so much as I am Leahy. Which is why, if untrue, Miers should be given the opportunity to clear her name. Your real argument should be with those that unquestionably accept every word from Leahy's lips.

Further, you accuse me of intending to harm Ms. Meirs before the world. Very much untrue. This position is high profile, so is the confirmation process. It is inevitable these questions are asked in a public forum. I have no control over the environment in which questions are asked.

Thirdly, you claim I an unaware of Ms. Meir's experiences and work product. A falsehood.

351 posted on 10/06/2005 10:49:23 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
That is the only way Presidents have made such a choice or COULD make such choices. It all boils down to who the President thinks he should nominate.

Well yes, but the problem with Miers is that what Bush sees in her is apparent to few of those who don't know her. That didn't have to be the case. He could have appointed many others whose fitness for the court would not have been questioned, especially by his own base. The trouble with Miers is that she's vulnerable to attacks on both ideology (murky) and cronyism, which combined may well be enough to kill her.

352 posted on 10/06/2005 10:49:48 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: paulat

Hamilton did not go off halfcocked on the basis of Ignorance.

He cannot be enlisted in the anti-Harriet jihad. It is an insult to his name to make believe he would approve of such hysterical overreacting as has greeted this nomination. He would have revered such a leader as President Bush.


353 posted on 10/06/2005 10:50:25 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: griffin
Is it easier for you to judge her motives by her deeds or by an answer to a question....in which the rational behind the answer is unknown?

I'm looking for anything to judge her. There's nothing!

354 posted on 10/06/2005 10:50:44 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: SpringheelJack

"and it's absurd of you to say that qualifications don't matter just because the constitution doesn't spell them out. "

WELL! Pftttt! to you! :P

:) I value education....but just as I think working on all those nice projects is nice in certain respects, i think it is equally nice to have a non-achedemic on the squad to add some balance. High thought is good, but I guess the founders didn't think it critical cuz they didn't put it in like they did for other offices...wonder why?

Maybe cuz all that lofty thinking dis-associates one from the masses would be my guess. Would be nice to have one of us on the squad to anchor the rest down....just my opinion.


355 posted on 10/06/2005 10:52:48 PM PDT by griffin
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To: California Patriot

You mean a qualified and conservative candidate such as Harriet helped the President to nominate as judges?


356 posted on 10/06/2005 10:53:08 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: flashbunny

The important number is 50 pro-life senators. Until we have 50 senators on our side who really want roe-v-wade reversed, we will have to play this kabuki dance.

Maybe Harriet will just go right up there and say "Roe-V-Wade" was bad constitutional law.

I hope she does. It's accurate, shows a good understanding of the constitution, and yet would not reveal how she would vote (after all, there is always super-stare-decisis).

Although I imagine once she said that, she would end up filibuster-bait. And no way the republicans would invoke the nuclear option on her, not with all the evidence from conservatives that she is an obviously unqualified nominee.


357 posted on 10/06/2005 10:53:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: griffin

The litmus test is only 5% of the population would support her. Anything else is suspect to the Antis.


358 posted on 10/06/2005 10:55:58 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The other is that, having spent the last years of her life vetting candidates and preparing them for questioning by the senate, she has a keen sense of what to say to the democrats when they ask her questions. And the "correct" answer to this question for her was really Warren Burger.

Considering the gnashing of teeth her nomination has caused on the right (the left has been keeping its lips shut mostly) it had to be the height of foolishness for her to suggest, to anyone, someone like Warren Burger as her favorite justice. If she was worried about offending Democrats, she could have picked Rehnquist, who lacks the scare value of Scalia and Thomas, and is also still enjoying the glow of approval that always follows someone's death.

Honest or dishonest, it doesn't speak well for her.

359 posted on 10/06/2005 10:56:35 PM PDT by SpringheelJack
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To: jdhljc169

Setting up a program and being the person who ends up running are two different things. This article lacks information to justify the conclusion made the author.


360 posted on 10/06/2005 10:59:28 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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