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To: doug from upland

I don't understand... I'm a Muslim in America, but I don't understand what it is you have aginst Muslims in general. I know that there are extremists out there, but our religion is supposed to be peaceful, in much the same way as Christianity. I feel the urge to point out that Christianity has a history of violence as well, what with the crusades and all. Anyway, I'm a big fan of the USA, and I really enjoy learning about the history of the frontier. I think it's unwise to pigeonhole people according to religion. I completely disagree with any forms of violence at all - I am a pacifist. I am also disappointed by your flippant remark about towing away a mosque. I suppose I'll be condemned for saying what I have, but I just can't see how anyone could find it controversial. Thanks.


94 posted on 10/06/2005 3:17:55 PM PDT by Barry_Hero
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To: Barry_Hero

We, the AMERICAN PEOPLE, might start having some positive attitude toward the Muslims in general, when YOU START protesting in the streets, by the hundreds of thousands...screaming at the tops of your collective lungs...

"NO MORE TERRORISM"..."NO MORE Bin Ladins"...."USA, USA, USA"...then, every Muzzie Leader in the world will PAY BACK the USA all the money we've spent in your craphole countries...and finally, BinLaden will be handed over to the US Military...dead or alive...

Simple, start STANDING UP AND DENOUNCE TERRORISM...but your believers won't because they are sheep, pale and weak.


95 posted on 10/06/2005 3:22:39 PM PDT by GRRRRR (America is a better place because of people like us...)
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To: Barry_Hero
Welcome to FreeRepublic. There are over 20 major conflicts around the world. Who is causing the trouble? I'll answer -- ISLAMISTS. No, not all Muslims are terrorists. But you know what, we are damned tired of heads being cut off and innocents being bombed. I can't speak for hundreds of years ago, but right now my Catholic church is not the ones cutting off heads. I am also not responsible for slavery.

You would not have the problem you have if Muslims everywhere would stand up against the terrorists and end the carnage. But all we see is weak bull**** statements. It is not good enough.

The towing away the mosque remark will not be withdrawn. It is at some schools and mosques where terrorists are planning to kill us. They need to clean up their act. They need to purge themselves of terrorist elements. They need to stand up and be counted. No half measures. We are in a war and the so-called religion of peace is not going to win it.

Tell your fellow Muslims to end it. Do it clearly and loudly. When that happens, we welcome you.

96 posted on 10/06/2005 3:24:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Barry_Hero; doug from upland; PhiKapMom; hispanarepublicana; LibertyRocks; Lizarde; Fred Nerks

No, Barry_Hero....what you are saying is not controversial; it is merely stupid. It also indicates that you don't know much about Islam yourself. You say that you don't want muslims to be pigeonholed....let me paraphrase what George Fernandes, Indian Defense Minister, said after 9/11: "All muslims are not terrorists but today, all terrorists are muslims." Are you going to disagree with this mostly-acurate statement? Yes, there are exceptions like the IRA and the LTTE but they are few and far between.

Let us look at some countries facing terrorist problems today:
America, Israel, Russia, India, Phillipines, Thailand, UK, Spain, China(!!!),.....the list goes on. What's common here? Well, all these countries have a significant Islamic minorities. Why is it that you muslims have a problem co-existing with ANY culture that you live in (as guests at that)? Why is it that you don't provide minority rights to Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, and others when you are a majority (Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, Malaysia, Algeria, among many others)? Do you still fail to understand why the world has a problem with Islam?

People like you run around claiming that Islam is a religion of peace. How dare you compare a barbaric religion like yours (that promises rewards for killing infidels) with civilized faiths? If you actually believe the drivel you write here, there is no help for you. Here is a suggestion - Go read the Koran and then come back and discuss particulars with us.


101 posted on 10/06/2005 3:48:50 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list. High-volume ping list)
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To: Barry_Hero
I am also disappointed by your flippant remark about towing away a mosque./

The whole world is disappointed (and furious) that you behead people like a sheep during hala. The world is disappointed that you blow up cheches and kill people at marriages. The world is disappointed that you kill other people so that you can go to heaven (and enjoy your 72 virgins and all that). Stop lecturing us on how disappointed you are. Clean your own house first and come back......you'll surely find receptive audiences. BTW, are you related to Hoboken, the other muslim troll, who was here 4-5 days ago?

102 posted on 10/06/2005 3:55:03 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list. High-volume ping list)
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To: Barry_Hero
Barry the fact that a majority of all wars and conflicts and murder by one human against others currently are from Islamist thats the problem. Until Islam stands up and kills and rids its self of Radical Jihadist Islam we have no choice but to assume all Muslims are Islamic Jihadist Terrorist in training.While the Christian religion and Western culture went through the “Reformation” and the “Enlightenment” and the invention of Democracy and Freedom, the Magna Carter, the creations of Courts and Common Law, legal protections of rights of individuals and property. The idea of tolerance and sufferance and equality of man and pluralism. Islam did the opposite with the “Wahhabism” movement in Saudi Arabia. Wahhabism and all its sects of Islam want to go back to a dark ages of tribal and Sharia Islamic Law. Women cant vote, are treated as property, non Muslims are second class. Non-believers are targets of terrorism. Afghanistan, Algeria, Bosnia, Bangladesh, Chechnya, East Timor, Egypt, Ethiopia, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Kosovo, Libya, Morocco, Nigeria, Pakistan, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Turkey, USA, Spain, England: Places where Islam is killing non Muslims.
109 posted on 10/06/2005 4:21:47 PM PDT by pwatson
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To: Barry_Hero
I don't understand... I'm a Muslim in America, but I don't understand what it is you have aginst Muslims in general. I know that there are extremists out there, but our religion is supposed to be peaceful, in much the same way as Christianity. I feel the urge to point out that Christianity has a history of violence as well, what with the crusades and all. Anyway, I'm a big fan of the USA, and I really enjoy learning about the history of the frontier. I think it's unwise to pigeonhole people according to religion. I completely disagree with any forms of violence at all - I am a pacifist. I am also disappointed by your flippant remark about towing away a mosque. I suppose I'll be condemned for saying what I have, but I just can't see how anyone could find it controversial. Thanks.

No. I am not kidding:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:


112 posted on 10/06/2005 4:35:06 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Cold Warrior, draggin' his BAR into the Sunset...)
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114 posted on 10/06/2005 4:37:49 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (That Dale Jr., he's a heckuva drafter," He's not the mailman's kid that's for sure"!!)
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To: Barry_Hero
Islam is pieceful.

http://www.historyofjihad.org/

The Jihad against the Arabs (622-634)

The Jihad against the Zoroastrians of Iran (634 -651)

The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634-1453)

The Jihad against the Egyptian Coptic Christians (640)

The Jihad against the Nubians – modern Sudanese, Ethiopians, Eritreans and Somalis (640 - 2004)

The Jihad against the Berbers of North Africa - Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco (640-711)

The Jihad against the Spanish and Portuguese (711-1492)

The Jihad against the Franks - ancient French (732-740)

The Jihad against the Italians in Sicily (812 -1571)

The Jihad against the Buddhist Chinese (650 -751)

The Jihad against the Turks (650-1050)

The Jihad against the Armenian and Georgian Christians

The Jihad against the Mongols (1050-1258)

The Jihad against the Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 - 1857)

The Jihad against the Serbs, Croats, and Albanians (1334 to 1920)

The Jihad against the Russians (1444-1918)

The Jihad against the Greeks and Bulgarians (1450 -1853)

The Jihad against the Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)

The Jihad against the Israel (1948 - ongoing)

The Jihad against the Americans (2001 - ongoing)

The Jihad against the British from 1947 onwards)

The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao from 1970 onwards

The Jihad against the Russians in Chechnya in the our times

The Jihad against Latin America in the our times

The Jihad against the Bulgarians (1393-1877)

The Jihad against the Indonesians (from 1450 onwards) and in our times in Malaku from 1990 onwards

The Jihad against the Poles, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians (1444 -1699)
120 posted on 10/06/2005 4:58:07 PM PDT by Xenophon450 ("Good men do not need laws to behave responsibly, whilst the bad will find a way around." - Plato)
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To: Barry_Hero

Welcome to Free Republic and America.

You ask what we have against Muslims in general. Assuming that statement is even true, it would be that I've yet to hear of Muslims rise up in the streets in anger at the terrorists attacking Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bali and around the world.

I've yet to hear Muslims rise up and denounce violence against innocents.

I've yet to hear Muslims rise up and say "Thank you Mr. President, soldiers and Americans for freeing 50 million people in Afghanistan and Iraq".


134 posted on 10/06/2005 5:28:51 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: Barry_Hero
but I don't understand what it is you have against Muslims in general.

It's not so much muslims I don't like, it's islam. It just so happens that people, like you, that believe in islam are muslims.

If you'd like to explain to me how you can follow a prophet that, when he was in his 50's, married a SIX year old and had SEX with her when she was NINE, go right ahead.


I feel the urge to point out that Christianity has a history of violence as well, what with the crusades and all.

And I'd point out to you that the Crusades were in RESPONSE to mulsims attacking caravans of Christians.

136 posted on 10/06/2005 5:31:19 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Barry_Hero
Barry_Hero

This account has been banned or suspended.

Awwwwww.

138 posted on 10/06/2005 5:32:39 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Barry_Hero

Why don't you go to the nearest FBI office and tell them everyone that you know of who's involved or acquainted with terrorist activity, or who is potentially willing to be.

Then, we won't have anything against you. Otherwise, how can we trust you when your faith justifies lying, if it's to further the cause of Allah?

Actions speak louder than words. Prove your pacifism.


141 posted on 10/06/2005 5:39:14 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Relying on the MSM for news is like using suppositories for recreational purposes.)
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To: Barry_Hero
I feel the urge to point out that Christianity has a history of violence as well, what with the crusades and all.

I feel the urge to point out that the crusades came about as a response to MUSLIM AGGRESSION AGAINST CHRISTIANS in the Holy Land. Perhaps you'd better study up on your history a bit more before you post again and embarrass yourself further.

150 posted on 10/06/2005 6:00:13 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: Barry_Hero

I'll forgive muslims when they bring back my son the marine back from the dead. I was in Beruit in 83 and he was killed in Iraq in 04.
Bakrhat choleem havush toshach!


154 posted on 10/06/2005 6:17:49 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (kill them all and let allah sort em out)
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To: Barry_Hero

Sorry, I think that being a Muslim is nothing but a cult against christianity.. You did not speak our against the 20 hijackers in 9/11. So shut the hell up. Oh, and yes this is a Holy War..


192 posted on 10/06/2005 10:13:21 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: Barry_Hero

Then say it loud and say it long and say it to people who can make a difference by joining a chorus of protestors against this terror element among you. We are running out of patience.


200 posted on 10/07/2005 6:29:29 AM PDT by sarasota
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