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To: Les_Miserables

How is it an ad hominem attack to point out the obvious? This SCOTUS nominee is at best a "stealth" candidate. There is no stand being taken.

If decades of ground work results in Miers, then yes, it is logical to call the federal Republican leadership out for what it has done: sold us out.

And if that is true, these people do not deserve our votes or money.

But here's an ad hominem for you. Only the most unprincipled and blind GOP supporters will not act to reverse the course this party is taking, even if that means booting some representatives out of the House. It is not enough to be anti-Democrat. There's many on our side that are part of the problem too. Miers is not the person to stand up against Kelo, first amendment and abortion type issues.


60 posted on 10/06/2005 5:05:19 AM PDT by Frank T
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To: Frank T
I asked you not to take it personally. I guess you did. I agree with the nice thought of removing RINOs and we are winning that battle (more slowly than I would prefer but we are winning) in case you haven't noticed.

As far as a stealth candidate is concerned the only way that could auger against us is if she is stealth in the mold of Souter. It is crystal clear to anyone watching this that that is not the case. Stealth for the purpose of defeating the Democrats is a valid (and potentially more successful) strategy, precisely because we have not moved far enough along in RINO redemption to guarantee the results of a fight to end all fights. I expect the votes for JRB for example, were already counted and fell short. The only point of fighting that battle then would have been, as Rush said, to draw clear lines between the Liberals and Conservatives of both parties and educate the public to the serious issues involved and why the Liberals have the wrong answers. What does this matter if we lose the court? Order of priority IMHO is 1.) Win the Court; 2.) Convert the RINOs seats to conservative seats. The latter will take much longer and expose the court to potential Liberal Democratic presidents that could do more damage while the RINO issue ferments. Bush has the priorities right as far as I am concerned. I don't know as much as I want about Miers but we are learning more every day and I do not believe the Republican Leadership has deserted the Conservative base. That would be irrational since it would mean Democratic victories..They are not stupid even though they do not move every time as I want on the issues. Immigration is one I think could be an Achilles heal and yet they do nothing...That could change this year. '06 will be a loss year for us if they don't make an intelligent move on that issue. If Miers is confirmed there will be a record from her by '06 that will support or crater conservatism. I can't see Bush or the Republican leadership making a move they did not honestly believe would support them in '06. Sorry about the ramble. Hope this helps..We just need more information here instead of condemnation.

66 posted on 10/06/2005 5:24:15 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Frank T

Politics matters. I understand the criticisms on the right on the Miers nomination, but it's gone way over the top. A lot of people on the right (whose opionions I respect [like those at NRO]) have gone way over the top on this one. If Bush can get someone on the Court who is (and this I'm assuming, but I certainly believe that BUSH believes it) a strict constructionist and well qualified, and get all of this potentially without a political fight, then bully for him! And best-qualified,schmest-qualified- was Bush or any other Presidential candidate the "best" qualified in the country for the job? Are these Senators the best-qualified people for THEIR jobs? This is politics. I know you want the best person you can find for Supreme Court (or any position in government), but they have to go through a political ringer first.

Everybody wants the big "national debate" over the issues. They want Bork. Well, Bork got defeated and things are much more contentious now in the senate than they were in the 80's. Democratic senators know their political lives depend on voting 'no' on anyone who gives any indication at all they will overturn Rowe. And a bunch of Republican Senators will immediately jump ship as well. That's the way it is. Bush has maybe one more year for big domestic issues. He doesn't have that many big fights left to make. A lot of people on the political right want him to throw himself on a grenade when he doesn't have to.

My first reaction to Miers was something akin to 'UGGH' as well, but get over it!


68 posted on 10/06/2005 5:45:53 AM PDT by cochino (politics matters)
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