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To: msnimje; seastay
The Feds have obviously asked the MSM to keep a lid on this one. There are two obvious reasons for this.

Reason #1: Homeland Security needs to find his accomplices and the al-Qaeda cell (if any) behind this. They can't roll up this organization if the MSM is all over it. It's important not to panic the rats so badly that they flee the country.

Reason #2: The government doesn't want to panic the people. There is the threat of misguided vigilante violence aimed at mosques and Muslims in general. With the army and the national guard abroad, the last thing we need is to have civil strife here.

The government is just trying to be prudent and responsible.

24 posted on 10/05/2005 6:14:42 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Publius

Here is the scary part. How many other things have occured that have been completely obscured. This one almost went away.

How is this crap ever going to get resolved unless people are awakened to the threat around them.

FREEP and channel 9 is all that's keeping it alive.


37 posted on 10/05/2005 6:18:49 PM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Publius
The Feds have obviously asked the MSM to keep a lid on this one. There are two obvious reasons for this. Reason #1: Homeland Security needs to find his accomplices and the al-Qaeda cell (if any) behind this. They can't roll up this organization if the MSM is all over it. It's important not to panic the rats so badly that they flee the country. Reason #2: The government doesn't want to panic the people. There is the threat of misguided vigilante violence aimed at mosques and Muslims in general. With the army and the national guard abroad, the last thing we need is to have civil strife here. The government is just trying to be prudent and responsible.

Wish I could agree. I don't think the Feds are that smart.
45 posted on 10/05/2005 6:20:00 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource Federal Judiciary and US Senate to India, NOW!)
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To: Publius

Reason #2.... I guess it didn't work with me. I went to the gun store and bought 2 boxes of Federal Premium, 45 Auto, 230 Grain Hydra-Shok's.

I feel better now.....


84 posted on 10/05/2005 6:28:26 PM PDT by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Publius
There is the threat of misguided vigilante violence aimed at mosques and Muslims in general.

Misguided?

88 posted on 10/05/2005 6:28:47 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Publius
"It's important not to panic the rats so badly that they flee the country."

Seems to me that would be a good reason to shout this story from the rooftops.

97 posted on 10/05/2005 6:31:17 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Publius
"The government is just trying to be prudent and responsible"

Maybe the Fed. Gov. doesn't want the Amercian public to know just how exposed and vulnerable it is due to its PC, criminal and insane immigration policies?

120 posted on 10/05/2005 6:39:08 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: Publius

Exactly. Thank you for a concise reading of the situation.


123 posted on 10/05/2005 6:39:37 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: Publius

I am not buying it -- I live here and have a right to know what is happening in my own town. I had to find out today that a Copy store is known for being an alleged terrorist cell hangout and I have been in that store.

We are quite capable of handling information here in Norman as witnessed by our exit from the stadium with no problems. I want the truth and the Government owes me and everyone else at that game and that live in this area the TRUTH instead of some of the dumbest statements I have ever heard.

We are not a bunch of vigilantes that are going to go around trying to take Arabs out -- they didn't it after 9-11 and they would not do it now. I do have a gripe about Boren taken the word of Arab students claiming they have had hate crimes when they haven't and kicking out regular white students for a semester. Bias in favor of Arab students is nothing short of astounding.

BTW, we don't have cameras in our parking garages because the ACLU objects. I am tired of the PC crap and I want the TRUTH. I can handle it and so can other Oklahomans even if Boren can't!

My mini rant!


136 posted on 10/05/2005 6:42:01 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Publius
"Reason #1: Homeland Security needs to find his accomplices and the al-Qaeda cell (if any) behind this. They can't roll up this organization if the MSM is all over it. It's important not to panic the rats so badly that they flee the country."

I agree with your "Reason # 1". It's definitely looking like they've had this guy under surveillance for a while.

Tinfoil hat or not, I think the FBI put a lid on this because they are still in the process of an investigation/arrests.

158 posted on 10/05/2005 6:47:07 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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the cell members know who they are already, what would the MSM be tipping them to?

there wasn't any civil strife against US muslims after 9/11 - why would a failed attack trigger this?

the sad truth is - that the permanent federal government beauracracy only gets off its a** when its pressured to do so - and without the pressure of media attention, if they can sweep this under the rug, they will. where will this story be two weeks from now if current trends continue?


162 posted on 10/05/2005 6:49:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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Reason # 3:

College football stokes the economy in a lot of places around the country. We can't afford a 'boycott' of sorts in football, 84000 in ticket sales, concessions, parking, gasoline, lodging, TV revenue, TV sponsorships.

Avoiding football games would do to local dependent economies much the same as the effect of people these days having avoided the airlines unless absolutely necessary to fly somewhere.

# 3 is similar to your reason # 2, but the 'panic' comes from our government related to the effect on the economy, not to a fear of vigilante behaviors directed at the mosques.


222 posted on 10/05/2005 7:03:59 PM PDT by ZOTnot ("Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas any more....")
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To: Publius

At this point any violence any mosques or muslims here in the US recieve is more than well earned. It's overdue.

You can not, not, not, not, trust ANY muslims.

Thier silence over the years has spoken volumes to any who will listen.


306 posted on 10/05/2005 7:23:22 PM PDT by Stopislamnow
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To: Publius
Reason #2: The government doesn't want to panic the people. There is the threat of misguided vigilante violence aimed at mosques and Muslims in general. With the army and the national guard abroad, the last thing we need is to have civil strife here.

While your first reason, catching the accomplices, is a valid one, although not for much longer, since they've obviously flown the coop by now, if they are going, the second one is not. It's not the Government's business to protect us from ourselves. We cannot take such measures, or support the proper governmental actions, if we do not know the facts.

What national Guard we have at home (still the vast majority of it) would be better employed ferreting out all the stealth Jihadies, and guarding them in tent cities pending their deportation hearings or trials. Start looking actively for folks who have overstayed their visas, and those who never had any having come over the border along with the economically motivated illegals. In the course of all that, you'd undoubtedly find lots of naturalized and a few native born citizens. They get full due process. The others get a hearing, with an appointed guard or reserve JAG officer representing them, before a civil or military tribunal. (Guard and Reserve JAG officers are almost to a person licensed to practice law in one or more states, and could easily be licensed to practice in the federal courts as well.). They get the one hearing, if the facts are not in dispute, they are put on a rusty tramp freighter for their homeland. Naturalized citizens get the same treatment after a full trial. Native born citizens go to jail or can at their choice be deported for life to the Terrorist supporting country of their choosing. (but only from a short list, mostly where we intend to invade shortly).

338 posted on 10/05/2005 7:29:14 PM PDT by El Gato
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I don't go along with the coverup thing. The bad guys know what is comming them already. And they know what happened better than anyone.

But worst of all is being lied to. If they don't want to say anything then they should just say "No Coment".


378 posted on 10/05/2005 7:37:05 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Publius

I think it would be more prudent to let the truth get out and for responsible football fans to be on the lookout this Saturday.


399 posted on 10/05/2005 7:40:49 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Publius

"Reason #1: Homeland Security needs to find his accomplices and the al-Qaeda cell (if any) behind this. They can't roll up this organization if the MSM is all over it. It's important not to panic the rats so badly that they flee the country."

BS - you are assuming the MSM is responsible.


493 posted on 10/05/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Publius

"The government is just trying to be prudent and responsible."


How? By hiding a potential threat to its citizenry?

Is "civil strife" you mention as a possibility WORSE than several hundred Americans getting blown to bits at a sporting event?

Don't make excuses for this Administration that seems hellbent to shield America from knowledge that may prevent terror attacks. See "Able Danger" for more on gov't coverups of terror investigations.


643 posted on 10/05/2005 9:01:03 PM PDT by Blzbba (For a man who does not know to which port he is sailing, no wind is favorable - Seneca)
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To: Publius
With the army and the national guard abroad, the last thing we need is to have civil strife here.

With the army and the national guard abroad, it's a handy moment to clean up some stables here...

663 posted on 10/05/2005 9:23:18 PM PDT by Neophyte (Nazists, Communists, Islamists... what the heck is the difference?)
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To: Publius

Ditto me on the disenters. Government needs to be honest about the problem and address it.

If Clinton had been honest about the OKC bombing in the first place, WTC II might not have happened, and the Oklahoma hive might have been rooted out before now.


679 posted on 10/05/2005 9:39:53 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Publius

Reason #2: The government doesn't want to panic the people. There is the threat of misguided vigilante violence aimed at mosques and Muslims in general. With the army and the national guard abroad, the last thing we need is to have civil strife here.





maybe that is exactly what we need to do, run them out of the country.. govt is restricted by PC'ism, we aren't


805 posted on 10/06/2005 2:36:32 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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