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To: Grampa Dave; doug from upland; All
This event may flush out over a decade of Jihadist in Norman/Oklahoma City.

I keep remembering "Elohim City" being mentioned after the Murrah Bldg was blown up but I can't remember the particulars. Is this where McVey was recruited? Anyone else remember? Think I'll try to locate it on GOOGLE EARTH.

Speaking of GOOGLE EARTH, does anyone know how to get the current imagery? What I'm seeing is old.
92 posted on 10/05/2005 5:56:59 PM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: hummingbird

This may be old too. I'm going to look at their newer database to see if it looks different.

BTW, you can certainly see the stadium in the upper left corner. Mosque (or at least the address someone gave) is there on that corner where the address is listed. Anyone know where the Parkview Apts are on this image?

103 posted on 10/05/2005 6:08:02 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: hummingbird
Speaking of GOOGLE EARTH, does anyone know how to get the current imagery? What I'm seeing is old.

You were expecting real time video down-links?

GE is made up of publicly available earth imaging from a variety of sources. You can get newer images of some ares in special collections of overlays - such as Katrina pictures of the gulf. However these are not always of the best resolution as they have not all been cleaned up and contrast matched. See the Google Earth home page and the Google Earth community for info on this. Further, some of these would not be suitable for permanant inclusion - which is why they are overlays. Water will go down eventually.

You can always throw $20 bucks at them to see if the paid service is better.

104 posted on 10/05/2005 6:08:40 PM PDT by konaice
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To: hummingbird

I've tried to locate Elohim City numerous times. Interestingly, it doesn't seem to exist. Let me know if you find anything, please.


109 posted on 10/05/2005 6:14:02 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: hummingbird
I keep remembering "Elohim City" being mentioned after the Murrah Bldg was blown up but I can't remember the particulars. Is this where McVey was recruited?

No, McVeigh was not recruited at Elohim City. He had casual contact with the security director there and tried to call him (I think) the night before the bombing.

Elohim City is near the Oklahoma/Arkansas border and is (was) either a center for right wing extremist, religious, illegal activity or a meeting place for federal employes.

I'm going from memory here and can't find my notes (travel journal). The FBI was represented by ? Millar and/or ? Mahon, founders and leaders of the evil community. The BATF was represented by Carol Howe. The CIA (or NSA or State Dept) was represented by Andreas Strassmeier, the security chief, who McVeigh tried to call. The FBI allowed Strassmeier to flee back to his native Germany several weeks after the bombing and them being told of his possible involvement. Ambrose Evans Pritchart (sp ?) had a great interview with A.S.

Factor in that several residents of E.C. have been convicted of serious crimes such as bank robbery, murder, etc. (One of them was executed 4-19-93) and you have a pretty good understanding of why E.C. was set up. The place was not infiltrated by the feds; it was established by them.

If you're planning your next vacation in E.C., be sure to wear your tinfoil hat. You may learn about Dr. Louis Jolyen (sp?) West, a government certified expert on mind control and a former director of MKUltra. Dr. Jolly had 2 or 3 visits with Tim while he was being held at Tinkers Air Force Base and possibly 20 more after the evil McVeigh was sent to federal penitentiary.

Unfortunately, Dr. West died in 1997 or 1998 so we'll never learn where McVeigh was recruited.

209 posted on 10/05/2005 10:39:59 PM PDT by jackliberty
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