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To: Nowhere Man

An important point to consider is this:

With doctor assisted suicide, doctors - who are supposed to heal and help - are doubling as executioners. (Of course, there are already the abortionist "doctors"... another evidence of doctors turned executioners.) Suicide, although illegal in many places (I mean, what's the sentencing guidelines for a successful suicide performer?) can be done without any help from a doctor. There are even books about how to do it easily.

What official doctor assisted suicide does is take it out of the realm of private lives and give it the government and medical official stamp of approval. And once it has the official stamp, people WILL BE ENCOURAGED TO DO IT. Of this there is not one iota of doubt. If is okay, or even beneficial, the line of who is "eligible" will change, as it has done and is doing in the Netherlands. And then, there are those too ill or disabled to actually "ask" to die - someone has to decide for them - already happening in the Netherlands.


115 posted on 10/06/2005 12:30:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah
"With doctor assisted suicide, doctors - who are supposed to heal and help - are doubling as executioners. "

They are not doubling as executioners. Death is imminent, they are simply acting to enable the patient to fore go the pain.

" What official doctor assisted suicide does is take it out of the realm of private lives and give it the government and medical official stamp of approval."

The govm'ts already involved. Family members caught by your jackboots are charged and convicted with felonies. Fed drug agents harrass and pull licences of docs, whoo in their opinion, dispense too much pain killer. Your claim is both false and shallow, because you are unwilling to even acknowledge that problem and work for a soluiton.

117 posted on 10/06/2005 12:40:45 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: little jeremiah
With doctor assisted suicide, doctors - who are supposed to heal and help - are doubling as executioners. (Of course, there are already the abortionist "doctors"... another evidence of doctors turned executioners.) Suicide, although illegal in many places (I mean, what's the sentencing guidelines for a successful suicide performer?) can be done without any help from a doctor. There are even books about how to do it easily.

I know in Englad back in the 1600's or 1700's, I think that if one was caught trying to commit suicide, it was a crime punishable by death. Kind of weird in a way, sort of an ultimate version of "suicide by cop." B-P I do think we need to keep the doctors out of it plus it does go against the Hippocratic Oath.

What official doctor assisted suicide does is take it out of the realm of private lives and give it the government and medical official stamp of approval. And once it has the official stamp, people WILL BE ENCOURAGED TO DO IT. Of this there is not one iota of doubt. If is okay, or even beneficial, the line of who is "eligible" will change, as it has done and is doing in the Netherlands. And then, there are those too ill or disabled to actually "ask" to die - someone has to decide for them - already happening in the Netherlands.

Yeah, the old slippery slope, already it did happen here as well with the Terri Schindler case. There is a lot of mental anguish in seeing a loved one pass on but still, to "off them" via the medical profession or allow assisted suicide is just plain wrong period.
123 posted on 10/06/2005 3:25:09 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: little jeremiah
You couldn't be more correct.

It is ridiculous that people want to involve doctors when they can do it themselves.

The same rational exists for legalizing suicide. If you want to kill yourself, you can, and thus also avoid punishment from society.

There is NO GOOD reason to legalize either suicide or doctor assisted suicide.

133 posted on 10/06/2005 6:53:05 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (A Reagan Conservative and mighty proud of it.)
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