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Abkhazia will not allow U.S., EU to deploy peacekeeping forces
RIA Novosti ^ | 30/ 09/ 2005

Posted on 10/05/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by Lukasz

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To: Tailgunner Joe

Ajaria is another region which didn't want Georgian rule. The Ajarians don't want the Russian troops there to leave. When Georgia reclaimed Ajaria, their leader Abashidze fled -- to Russia.==

So what georgians achived? One more smaller nation hate them:(. They complain about russian imperial rule sametime what they do themselves? Hypocrisy again.

BTW as far as I knew Abashidze fled to Turkey maybe through Russia. As muslim he befriended them.

It was an Ajarian who threw a hand grenade at President Bush. ==

Accually according his second name he is armenian not ajarian.


101 posted on 10/11/2005 11:44:50 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: Lukasz
Remember Lukasz, don't blame Germans for invading Poland. It was The Nazis. After all Hitler was not German.
102 posted on 10/11/2005 12:06:40 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: RusIvan
Since Ajaria borders Turkey, why would he have to go there via Russia? As far as I know he is in Moscow.
103 posted on 10/11/2005 12:07:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: RusIvan
So now it was Soviet Union in 1939. It is good since it is true. But I remember those times here on FR when they said that it was "russians".

Probably because mostly Russians run Soviet Union.

104 posted on 10/11/2005 12:53:24 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As I know Ajarians are Georgians.

It was an Ajarian who threw a hand grenade at President Bush.

Are you sure, I thought that an Armenian.

105 posted on 10/11/2005 12:57:28 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz
A number of Georgian media circulated reports yesterday that Vladimir Arutyunian, who was arrested on charges of the attempted assassination of the two presidents, was a member of the Revival Party, whose leader for 13 years was former president of Ajaria Aslan Abashidze. Journalists and investigators obtained this information from neighbors of the accused. The investigators are verifying these reports, including information that Arutyunian was involved in the events in Ajaria last year, when armed Abashidze supporters confronted the central authorities on the administrative boundary between Georgia and Ajaria.

The Ajarian “footprint” in the assassination attempt could fairly quickly develop into a Russian footprint, given Abashidze's close relations with Moscow. - LINK

106 posted on 10/11/2005 1:39:07 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Lee Heggy123
Just across the way from those trouble making places like

"My Tribe Only", "Your Tribe Sucks", and the "My Way or Die Alliance Tribe"

107 posted on 10/11/2005 1:44:28 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So he is ethnic Armenian, although connected with Abashidze regime.


108 posted on 10/11/2005 1:50:49 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Probably because mostly Russians run Soviet Union.==

This is exactly wrong. The matter of fact that the creation of USSR manifested that russians lost the ruling power in former Russian Empire as result of WHite Movement lost Civil war. So new state was named Soviet Union no word "russian" in it.


109 posted on 10/11/2005 11:42:15 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: kaiser80

Remember Lukasz, don't blame Germans for invading Poland.==

If Poland were invaded by state named "Europian Union" not Germany and germans was involved in EU state by force then we got same situation like with Soviet Union and russians.

After all Hitler was not German.==

After all germans elected him on free elections.


110 posted on 10/11/2005 11:56:35 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: RusIvan
USSR was founded in 1922. Before it was Soviet Russia, right? Or Bolshevik Russia?

Probably because mostly Russians run Soviet Union.== This is exactly wrong

Oh yeeeah. Do you think that anyone would believe somebody who thinks that "liberalism=communism"??? From your homepage:

I think that liberalism is the similar notorious "-ism" like communism. They are just 2 side of one coin. The 2 extreme sides on the scale of political views. They both want to establish "fairness and equality" in society by robbing ones for sake of others.

111 posted on 10/12/2005 2:12:25 PM PDT by REactor
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To: kaiser80
don't blame Germans for invading Poland. It was The Nazis. After all Hitler was not German.

Sorry, but I will still blame Germans. Germans elected Hitler, Germans supported him, germans fought in his wars. If we keep demanding of Putin that he acknowledge Soviet crimes we cannot at the same time let the Germans off.

112 posted on 10/12/2005 2:42:32 PM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor
Sorry, but I will still blame Germans. Germans elected Hitler, Germans supported him, germans fought in his wars. If we keep demanding of Putin that he acknowledge Soviet crimes we cannot at the same time let the Germans off.

Did you take it sirious?? lol

113 posted on 10/12/2005 2:48:01 PM PDT by kaiser80
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To: kaiser80

OH now I see. LOL. It's hard to convey emotions by internet. JB6 used to place a tag /sarcasm/ at the end of his posts. ;) At least this was clear enough:))))


114 posted on 10/12/2005 2:52:17 PM PDT by REactor
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To: REactor

USSR was founded in 1922. Before it was Soviet Russia, right? Or Bolshevik Russia? ==

Nope. Before it was October Revolt in Russian Empire. And first bolshevick goverment of Russian Empire(or Russia for shortness).

Oh yeeeah. Do you think that anyone would believe somebody who thinks that "liberalism=communism"??? From your homepage:

I think that liberalism is the similar notorious "-ism" like communism. They are just 2 side of one coin. The 2 extreme sides on the scale of political views. They both want to establish "fairness and equality" in society by robbing ones for sake of others.==

Yeah yeah:)). If for you 2 sides of one coin is same then same:). But I did never see no coin with identical sides.
Remeber that "similar" is not same. It means likewise not equal.

So with liberalism and communism. 2 sides of one coin. Similar but not same but opposites. Hence 2 extremes which converge together.
Did you never hear that the logical law that "2 opposite extremes are alway to converge"? I meant just this law.


115 posted on 10/13/2005 12:41:08 AM PDT by RusIvan
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To: REactor

Sorry, but I will still blame Germans. Germans elected Hitler, Germans supported him, germans fought in his wars. If we keep demanding of Putin that he acknowledge Soviet crimes we cannot at the same time let the Germans off.==

As far as I understand you blame only russians not georgians (Stalin and Beria the head of NKWD in 1949 both georgians) ukranians not belorusses not latvians not uzbeks not one of 115 ethnicities of USSR.

So if you prove that Stalin was elected only by russians on free election and was sameway supported by them then russians are like germans here.


116 posted on 10/13/2005 12:45:38 AM PDT by RusIvan
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