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For those that missed the "World of Elephants" shindig a few weeks ago, which I'm guessing is pretty much everyone. :)
1 posted on 10/04/2005 11:47:28 PM PDT by planetesimal
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well, time to change those science books AGAIN as another theory falls on its face. apparently. maybe. for a while.


2 posted on 10/04/2005 11:50:13 PM PDT by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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Except that 30000 to 13000 years ago is withing the memory of mankind (oral traditions, cave paintings), and nothing like this is evident. Being hunted to death seems more likely

Some scholars even believe mankind had memory of Neanderthals. "For in those days there were giants in the earth that bread with the son of man".
3 posted on 10/04/2005 11:56:23 PM PDT by konaice
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How long before it's blamed on President Bush?


6 posted on 10/05/2005 12:02:13 AM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I just stepped in a big pile of sassy.)
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"What is exciting about Dr. Firestone's theory is that it can be easily tested," Becker said,

I'm waiting. I'm still waiting. Still waiting. Still.....

13 posted on 10/05/2005 12:08:46 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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THIS guy has a far more plausible explanation for ice ages and extinctions than any other theoretician I've yet found.
16 posted on 10/05/2005 12:26:55 AM PDT by Don W (Nevermind, I live in CUBA-NORTH! AKA Canuckistan)
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18 posted on 10/05/2005 12:54:08 AM PDT by Old Seadog (Birthdays start out being fun. But too many of them will kill you..)
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Author doesn't know what she's talking about.....Michael Moore is still around.


21 posted on 10/05/2005 1:02:38 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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The 6,214 miles-per-second iron-rich grains would have riddled everything like bullets.


25 posted on 10/05/2005 1:35:09 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Sin in the name of God is the ultimate blasphemy.)
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If their supernova theory gains acceptance, it could explain why dozens of species on the continent became extinct 13,000 years ago.

Seems the much more likely explanation is the arrival of man at about the same time. The same thing happened to many large mammal species in Australia after mankind arrived on that continent.

33 posted on 10/05/2005 2:37:32 AM PDT by Godebert
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Seems to me that if there were a Supernova blast within 250 LY of earth, even 40K years ago, there would be ample astronomical evidence of such..

Any Astronomers here?
Is there any evidence of a Supernova within say, 500 LY of earth within, say, the last 100K years?
Any evidence at all?

Concerning the presently existing astronomical evidence of supernova blasts that have been recorded, how old are they? ( regardless of distance )
How old is the presently seen evidence of those explosions?
Is it fairly easy to recognize the post-supernova evidence?

I don't recall hearing/reading of any nearby (relatively) evidence of large clouds of ionized particles, x-ray emmissions from massively accelerated solar mass, etc....
Seems to me if you're going to claim "supernova killed the mammoths", pitted craters in mammoth tusks is not primary evidence to validate your claim..
The primary evidence is the remains of a supernova..
Where is it???

37 posted on 10/05/2005 3:46:11 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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My previous posts were written before reading the article.

Bad habit.

But seriously, folks, this is a truly idiotic article. To believe it, you must believe that a supernova 250 light years from Earth affected North America, and only NA, in at least two separate events tens of thousands of years apart.

It seems to me that mammoth tusks riddled with iron-rich particles would be more likely to be related to a localized event, perhaps a volcanic eruption, than to an astronomical event that mysteriously affects all of NA but not the rest of the planet.

You must also believe that saber-toothed cats were less able to take shelter in a cave or elsewhere than elk or moose or (regular-size) bison!

It is possible that the actual science makes more sense than this idiot article.


39 posted on 10/05/2005 3:58:17 AM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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That was interesting, Thanks.


40 posted on 10/05/2005 4:12:45 AM PDT by PeteB570
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Easily testable...

If the tusks are riddled with craters, there should be some of the causative material embedded in them, one would think.


42 posted on 10/05/2005 4:14:46 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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Interesting article as I was just looking at this bass online last night, the "oldest bass in the world"

The inlay is made from Mastadon tusk. I did a search for mammoth tusk and found that there is a lot on the market via Ebay, primarily from Siberian origin and sells as carved figurines.

45 posted on 10/05/2005 4:30:25 AM PDT by Rebelbase (New Orleans rebuild by Mexican Labor will produce crawfish tacos and menuedo-gumbo.)
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I think fad dieting killed them.


47 posted on 10/05/2005 4:36:28 AM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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The real cause of the disappearance of the mamouth:


49 posted on 10/05/2005 4:44:40 AM PDT by kidd
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Firestone said they think the formation created superheated hurricanal winds in the atmosphere that rolled across North America at 400 kilometers per hour (about 249 mph).

React to that FEMA!

53 posted on 10/05/2005 6:57:36 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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54 posted on 10/05/2005 8:21:28 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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This sounds a lot like Velikovsy's "Worlds In Collision". There was a freeze 13,000ya that probably had great bearing on the extinction but pairing it with a 40,000ya event is a pretty tough case to make.


55 posted on 10/05/2005 8:28:44 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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Supernova storms killed the dinosaurs.. hmmmm

This image provided by NASA's Hubble Heritage team Tuesday Oct. 4, 2005 shows a supernova remnant, the ejected material from the explosion of a massive star, that occurred some 3,000 years ago. This titanic explosion took place in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a nearby neighbor galaxy some 160,000 light-years away. This composite image of N132D comprises visible-light data taken in January 2004 with Hubble's Advanced Camera for Surveys, and X-ray images obtained in July 2000 by Chandra's Advanced CCD Imaging Spectrometer. The complex structure of N132D is due to the expanding supersonic shock wave from the explosion impacting the interstellar gas of the LMC. A supernova remnant like N132D provides information on stellar evolution and the creation of chemical elements such as oxygen through nuclear reactions in their cores. (AP Photo/NASA)

57 posted on 10/05/2005 9:28:24 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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