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To: Chode
the Bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are NOT the Catholic Church!!!

But they happen to represent the larger teaching of the Catholic Church.

We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

10 posted on 10/04/2005 4:34:47 PM PDT by sinkspur (Breed every trace of the American Staffordshire Terrier out of existence!)
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To: sinkspur

"We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days."

I don't think the Catholic Church believes in a word for word literal interpretation of the scriptures...certainly you don't get that from augustine, aquinas, francis, etc.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 4:38:32 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

There seem to be plenty of people here who still believe every word is literally true. It's a bit scary...

19 posted on 10/04/2005 4:40:50 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

Perhaps, but that does not mean we should not believe in the “total accuracy” of the Bible. Just because the Bible is not literally true, does not mean it is not The Truth. It probably means we are just too stupid to understand it.

20 posted on 10/04/2005 4:40:56 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: sinkspur
the Vatican is the Catholic Church when speaking FOR the Church... NOT a bunch of "self deleted" Bishops who prolly don't even believe in God.
24 posted on 10/04/2005 4:49:36 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

Hmmm - if you read Genesis more carefully, it says God created the heavens and the earth and it was a formless void (or some such). After that, He separated day from night and that caused the first day. The rest was done during the next six days.

So, He didn't create the earth in six 24 hour days, he created it outside of time and did the rest during the days.

Why so hard to believe that God could do all this in any amount of time when He speaks things into existence? He's GOD for crying out loud; He doesn't have to resort to manual labor and work up a sweat. As in everything, He did it in His time and it's up to us to decide if we want to believe or not.

If you can't believe all the Bible, how can you believe in the New Testament that tells us that the sin penalty of death has been payed in full, if only we believe and ask Him for this tremendous gift?

153 posted on 10/04/2005 6:39:18 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

You must have a mouse in your pocket...

171 posted on 10/04/2005 6:55:10 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: sinkspur
"We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days."

You can't demonstrate that that principle comes from the text itself. Actually, we are long past the days of people actually reading what the text ACTUALLY says.

191 posted on 10/04/2005 7:16:25 PM PDT by Radix (My Tag Line had a first place record, but lost in the tie breakers.)
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To: sinkspur

But they happen to represent the larger teaching of the Catholic Church.

Ever heard of the Vatican? The curia? You know not of what you speak.


201 posted on 10/04/2005 7:33:52 PM PDT by sgtyork
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

Right. Then there are allegories, etc.

The point is that the Church teaches that Scripture is the inspired Word of God. The reporting is very misleading.

As for the "Bible alone" crowd, I'd like to know where in the Bible Jesus is recorded as commanding his Apostles to write a New Testament. I do seem to recall something about the church being "the pillar and foundation of truth," though. Christ's Church wrote, preserved and canonized the Bible. No Church, no Bible.

254 posted on 10/05/2005 7:49:25 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: sinkspur

Bible doesn't say the world was created in six 24-hour days. It says it was created in six days.


268 posted on 10/05/2005 9:59:39 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

Maybe it was during daylight savings time?
289 posted on 10/05/2005 1:56:39 PM PDT by sono
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To: sinkspur

"We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days."

Friend, you have gone too far past...


309 posted on 10/05/2005 9:22:41 PM PDT by Free Baptist
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

Sink, if I were surrounded with people like you on one side, and people like the anti-Semitic sedevacantists on the other, I'd attack in both directions.

The whole purpose of this statement is to head off any Zionism caused by exposure to the actual words of the Bible.

344 posted on 10/06/2005 12:44:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo-ya`avdukh yo'vedu!)
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To: sinkspur
We are long past the days of believing that the world was created in six 24-hour days.

What's this we crap?

I'm not Catholic and I'm not saying I believe one way or the other about the six twenty-four hour days.

But what I would like to know is why you think you have the right to speak for the Catholic Church or the rest of the entire human race.

420 posted on 10/06/2005 9:12:56 PM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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