Posted on 10/04/2005 12:21:01 PM PDT by Junior
Say what? :-) Well I don't certainly believe in macro evolution but I don't see the point you're trying to make. Christ died on a cross because of original sin. It had nothing to do with evolution or no evolution or the manner in which we were created. It's related to who we are. We have free will and we are sinners by nature after the fall of Adam.
The problem with a Christian accepting macro evolution is the Word written down in Genesis. But if God wanted to use evolution he certainly could have and it's not impossible that he did since Genesis does not go into too many details regarding Creation. But the text seems to clearly state we were created and I tend to believe this means - poof - we were created. But I certainly don't know and I don't spend much time worrying about it. God apparently doesn't think its that important for us to know those details since very little is said about it. The focus of the Bible is not on science and such physical matters but matters of the heart and our relationships with each other and God.
I don't understand why a Priest would go out on that limb to accept macro evolution when the evidence is so scant anyway.
I disagree with that...I believe the Bible to be a true account of creation...And, I believe the Reformation Bible, the King James Version, to be God's word given to the English speaking world...
And interesting thing...I read recently that DNA tests were done on some remnants of what they call the Neanderthal Man and it was found that the scientists could find no connection whatsoever between modern humans and the Neanderthal...
A lot of interesting things in that Bible...God said He made us in His image...So would that mean God is a toad? Or does he look like us, or whatever we will evolve to in a billion years???
In the KJV, God told Adam to multiply and 'replenish' the earth...That's the earth that is void and without form...That's exactly the same thing God told to Moses after the flood...Replenish the earth...
God also said he made the plants, after their kind...Well that's pretty clear; he copied something that was there before...
An amazing book, that Bible...
LOL. Someone's been taken to the woodshed!
I have a strange feeling your list of deceased FReepers is just about to get a little south-of-the-border flavor.
Thanks for the ping!
Sheesh - some people resent people having a little fun.
:-)
[lighten up and laugh - it's good for the liver!]
I take my duties as head historian at Darwin Central very seriously.
Actually, Gensis 2 says that God formed man out of slime. Hebrew scholars will tell you that the word "formed" in this context is being used in the same sence as a potter forms a pot out of clay. Just as the forming of a pot is a gradual process, so too was the forming of man by God.
Read in this light, Genesis makes evolution of man far more plausible than a sudden "poofing" into existence.
In any case, creation and evolution are not mutually exclusive. Evolution is just the process God used for creation. Creation does not have to be sudden, and there's nothing in Genesis to indicate that the creation of man was sudden.
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No. I forgot to delete the first two words, "Sorry, but.." from the rest of it. Those words were left over from a previous post where I had to correct a misconception someone had about the subject. Sorry for the confusion.
Tree rings, radiometric dating. All the different dating methods tend to agree with one another. The universe and Earth are old. Things have changed.
That's quite a stretch. My wife is a potter and shapes clay. It doesn't take very long. So your argument is bogus. While it's possible creation and evolution could be mutually exclusive there is no scriptural evidence to imply evolution and lots on the creation side. No sale. Nice try.
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The evo side is rather short. Here are those I can recall: Aric2000, Jedigirl, Modernman, SeaLion. Maybe Ogmios. I'm fuzzy on a couple of others.
Also Shubi. Just remembered him.
and all have untestable flawed (mostly uniformitarian) built in, such as speed of light. this is not God lying to US, its not taking into account "the fear (utmost respect vain of "fear") of God is the beginning of all knowledge"
You are grasping at straws in an effort to basically support and unsupportable supposition. As I said, any data point taken individually can be molded to fit a specific paradigm. The sum total of data points, however, have a tendency to point in one direction, and that direction is not in support of creationism. It does, however, support the current scientific position.
You missed my point. How long it takes is not important. It's the fact that a lump of clay has to pass through intermediate stages before it reaches its final form, just as man passed through various intermediate stages before reaching his final form.
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