Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits

Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

[A.Hun]

Gee whiz bud, how much more do you need. No in the field study can eliminate every possible cause. If this is not good enough, you won't be convinced till you catch it.

Good luck.

[Judith Anne]

Great article from the NEJM, and thanks for posting. I doubt it'll meet the standards (undefined, frankly) demanded by our inquiring poster.

[Protagoras]

Proof may be nice to have,

It is not nice to have, it is essential when making statements as if they are fact.

I never made any comment whatsoever about ANY other topic than the inaccurate statement.

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Is that the Jakarta story I posted that you are talking about? Or is there another?

[Judith Anne]

See? What did I tell you? After all, the poster deserves for us to go look him up something "better" than the NEJM and the CDC.

Actually, I think he's playing a freaking game. The payoff is, he feels important. I quit.

[A.Hun]

I'm done too. Enough is enough.

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Results The index patient became ill three to four days after her last exposure to dying household chickens. Her mother came from a distant city to care for her in the hospital, had no recognized exposure to poultry, and died from pneumonia after providing 16 to 18 hours of unprotected nursing care. The aunt also provided unprotected nursing care; she had fever five days after the mother first had fever, followed by pneumonia seven days later. Autopsy tissue from the mother and nasopharyngeal and throat swabs from the aunt were positive for influenza A (H5N1) by RT-PCR. No additional chains of transmission were identified, and sequencing of the viral genes identified no change in the receptor-binding site of hemagglutinin or other key features of the virus. The sequences of all eight viral gene segments clustered closely with other H5N1 sequences from recent avian isolates in Thailand.

Conclusions Disease in the mother and aunt probably resulted from person-to-person transmission of this lethal avian influenzavirus during unprotected exposure to the critically ill index patient.

That says it all in a nutshell. Thanks for the link.

[Protagoras]

Gee whiz Bud, how many more times do you have to be shown that your statement was incorrect before you just admit it, and agree with ALL the links you have posted that it is probable, likely, possible, possibly inevitable, and all the other things they so clearly said time after time article after article.

Why you are so intent on convincing me of something I never even addressed is beyond mysterious.

It's amazing, just dig in the old heels and pretend everyone else doesn't get it. Scheech.... You were wrong, Judith was wrong. Oh well.

[Judith Anne]

Vietnam, earlier this year, last spring, I think.

Anyway, I've re-read so much stuff I'm not positive anymore.

Later. ;-D

[A.Hun]

My pleasure. Thank you!

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Let me see...when I was a little girl my sister had the measles, I then caught the measles myself. I 'PROBABLY' caught them from her./sarc

Why some can't see that logic is beyond me.

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Thanks, later.

[A.Hun]

People generally see what they want, for good or ill.

[Judith Anne]

It's amazing, just dig in the old heels and pretend everyone else doesn't get it. Scheech.... You were wrong, Judith was wrong. Oh well.

You don't get it. We don't care what you think. We used to, but not anymore. We have p-antibodies. That's protagoras antibodies, for you laypeople.

We had a good dose of your questions and demands, and now, viola! we're immune!

Have a great life! ;-D

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I agree 100%.

I'm glad Bush is making plans for the 'IF' situtation.

[Protagoras]

I thought you were through with me? I just can't keep these women away from me! :^}

[mabelkitty]

HELL NO!

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Looks like Canada is having some sort of problem. The number of their sick patients, afflicted with "A mystery Illness" seems to be growing.

[JOAT]

bookmark bump

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Mystery Illness Toll in Toronto Increases To Ten Dead

Recombinomics Commentary October 4, 2005

Dr. McKeown provided the following update:

- Since yesterday there have been four additional deaths for a total of ten in the outbreak.

- The outbreak has so far affected a total of 70 residents, 12 employees and two visitors at Seven Oaks.

- 40 residents from Seven Oaks have been admitted to hospital.

The above update reveals a much more serious condition than yesterday. The number dead has increased to 10 from 6 and the number of residents admitted to Toronto area hospitals has increased from 30 to 40. Thus, 50 of the 70 residents infected have been hospitalized or died. The deaths are over 14% of the infected residents. In addition, the number of employees infected has risen form 8 to 12, suggesting more residents will show symptoms due to later exposure dates.

There has still been no etiological agent identified, so negative data for H5N1 remains suspect. The increasing numbers of dead patients should provide sufficient autopsy material for identification of this deadly and highly infectious agent.