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The Coming Explosion Over Miers – Redux (Too many conservatives going off half-cocked.)
The American Thinker ^ | October 3, 2005 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/03/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by quidnunc

Rush Limbaugh has found the information that Harriet Miers is an evangelical Christian, a member of a church in Dallas that most would describe as "fundamentalist." I believe that this vindicates my earlier analysis based on mistaken information about a Ministry supported by Ms. Miers.

Blue state fundamentalists tend to hate evangelicals the way that Islamists hate Jews: viscerally. It will take enormous willpower for many of them to avoid saying that one who believes in the literal word of the Bible should not be allowed a place on the Supreme Court. They played footsie with the position that a devout Catholic would be disqaualified.

To partially quote my earlier post: this is a battle the Democrat left can't win with a majority of the American public, which sees religious faith as a good thing. As far as I am concerned about the coming attacks, Dirty Harry summed up my feelings: "Go ahead — make my day."

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(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers
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To: andysandmikesmom
I think we should stop the hysterics, get the facts,(real facts, not gossip, not rumors), and then make a decision in our minds, based on the facts...

The facts are that Bush picked an unqualified candidate who has unimpressive acedemic and legal credentials for the job who wouldn't be on any other person's top 1000 list of potential nominees and has an unknown constitutional philosophy when there were many extremely esteemed originalist circuit court judges to choose from.

But why base an opinion on facts when you have blind faith?

41 posted on 10/03/2005 5:00:26 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: McGavin999

Mark Levin opposes her nomination and he is as conservative as they come in his judicial philosophy. It should be added that Scalia and Thomas are not constructionists, they are originalists.


42 posted on 10/03/2005 5:00:26 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: quidnunc

I like the fact that she is not an elitist snob. I like the fact that she didn't go to Yale and that she is not part of the ivory tower, judicial, holier-than-thou brigade. She got places not due to an Ivy League resume, but instead due to hard work and determination. Hopefully, she has the intellect to go along with that as well. Everyone has been saying that the Supreme Court has lost touch with reality
(i.e. the recent eminent domain case), so someone who is more like the average American should be a welcome addition to the mix. Cheney told Hannity she IS of the Scalia and Thomas mold. Let's hope so. In any event, we are no worse off with her than we were with O'Connor and Bush still has three more years to appoint another justice. By the looks of some of the remaining justices, it very well could happen sooner rather than later (John Paul Stevens or Ginsburg could be next).


43 posted on 10/03/2005 5:00:54 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Republican Red

Yeah that Stevens tripping stunt reminded me of a scene from "Naked Gun" the movie.


44 posted on 10/03/2005 5:01:16 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: quidnunc
Miers

We are all mostly spectators at this point. None of us know anything substantial about her. There are a number of scenarios I can imagine as this plays out. If you think that the Republicans have trouble with the nomination, imagine what the dimcrats are experiencing right now!

If they try to kill the nomination for lack of experience, they also are going to be on the wrong side of the diversity question. Ginsberg is a Valley girl. My guess is that Miers is not, and that she will draw demo blood whether she is confirmed or not.

Bush is holds the cards and is dealing. He knows what the next two or three cards are....the dems don't. This whole thing is becoming fun to watch. Bush is not going to nominate another Souter, period.

45 posted on 10/03/2005 5:01:46 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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To: quidnunc

Well said. Thank you.


46 posted on 10/03/2005 5:02:01 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Do you have any facts to support your assertion? If you do, please...share them. Many of us would like to rest easy tonight.

Well, there have been facts all over these threads, but I'll repeat the few that let me rest easy tonight:

VP Cheney endorses her.

ACLJ Jay Sekulow endorses her.

President Bush nominated her.

One of her close friends says that she is an evangelical Christian.

Planned Parenthood thinks she's a bad nomination. There are plenty more facts posted in the various articles here on FR, if you don't like these, but you'll have to do your own finding.

47 posted on 10/03/2005 5:02:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: ladyinred
I trust this President to choose wisely. He knows her, he trusts her, and that matters to me. Those having fits haven't even got a clue what she will be like on the Courts. There are just those here who seem to want to criticize everything the President does. It says more about them, then it does him imo.

Thank you. I think you are exactly right.

48 posted on 10/03/2005 5:02:43 PM PDT by arjay (May God give President Bush strength and comfort in this time of struggle!)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

I like alot of people but I don't think they are all qualified for the SCOTUS. This is not a freakin' political appointment for cryin' out loud.


49 posted on 10/03/2005 5:03:01 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: quidnunc

And, in addition, we sound just like the `kooky' left. Shout, scream and make unfounded accusations.

If you don't like the nominee tell your Senator to vote no. But grow up.

And if that is too hard, vote for Democrats. Your problems will be solved and you will be a happy conservative.


50 posted on 10/03/2005 5:03:04 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: quidnunc
They demand a fire-breathing, in-your-face, old-time-religion-preaching conservative whose nomination would trigger a to-the-death confrontation with the Democrats.

Bush must have stayed up late studying Zun Tsu the great military tactician of ancient China. His strategies are still taught at the war college today.

It is better to win the war without having to fight a battle. Use your enemies weakness against them and you remain strong while they grow weaker. A battle results in both sides being weakened regardless of the outcome.

There is no doubt Harriet Miers is a conservative. Bush has known and worked with her for too long to not know her core values. The Dems can't effectively attack her without over playing their hand and alienating more of the moderates in the electorate which would kill them in the mid-term elections. So, barring some unforeseen revelation, Miers is in, and Bush doesn't have to replace one of the staunch conservatives on the appeals court, conserving and area of strength.

The anger being expressed by conservatives isn't about Harriet Miers bonifides as a conservative. It is about not having a big fight in the Senate. Well, we don't need that fight. No one really knows what the fallout of such a fight would be and unexpected consequences (not necessarily good) are likely. The smart strategist keeps backing the opposition up; not into a corner where they are forced to fight for their lives, but over the edge of the table when they don't see it coming.

Unless someone can convince me of a reason why Bush would suddenly drop his convictions over what type of Justice he would appoint, this move borders on brilliant. That is if the people on his team will stop and use a little logic before they go around shooting each other in the foot.

51 posted on 10/03/2005 5:03:18 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Judith Anne

Endorsements are not facts.

But, thanks for trying ;-)


52 posted on 10/03/2005 5:03:34 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Republican Red

"Judge John Roberts grabbing Steven's arm we would have had another pick today."

If Roberts were any kind of an actor and a quick thinker, he could have pretended to help Stephens, while making sure that he hit the ground hard enough to break the old hip.


53 posted on 10/03/2005 5:04:15 PM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: All
Agreed. I think it's fine to disagree with the President, but I think it should be based on something other than what pundits say...get some info first. There's so much knee jerk reaction.

As opposed to knee jerk agreement with the pick. What's the agreement based on?

Why should I support the pick? That's all anyone is asking. What evidence leads you to believe this is a good pick?

I know there are a lot of others I could easily support. Tell me why I should support this pick other than "Bush must know something we don't". That's not reassuring to me when I already see multiple "CONSERVATIVE" appointments on the bench that are big dissapointments.

Given the choice of supporting or not supporting based upon lack of knowledge and blind faith, I obviously choose NOT supporting.

54 posted on 10/03/2005 5:04:24 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: quidnunc
Does anyone think a more conservative appointee would have made it through the Senatorial Inquisition.

If President Bush had appointed Janice Rogers Brown, you'd have Sinator Obama ( along with all the other usual suspects ) calling her "Jemima" instead of Janice.

55 posted on 10/03/2005 5:04:48 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
It should be added that Scalia and Thomas are not constructionists, they are originalists.

You are right about Thomas. But Scalia would describe himself as a textualist and I think he is more of a strict constructionalist. He absolutely ignores original meaning where he thinks the text is clear. Thomas is quicker to delve into historical meaning to support his opinions, even where he believes the text is clear.

56 posted on 10/03/2005 5:04:57 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

I doubt that Specter would have crossed Bush if he picked a Luttig or Jones; Specter would have risked getting run out of his chairmanship.

I doubt Bush would have lost both from Maine. So he loses Chafee and maybe 2 other Rs, he would have picked up Ds from red states. Bush didn't have to capitulate to the RINO contingency.


57 posted on 10/03/2005 5:05:11 PM PDT by Looper
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To: CMAC51
There is no doubt Harriet Miers is a conservative. Bush has known and worked with her for too long to not know her core values.

So is Bush nominating a conservative or someone who thinks like him? They are not the same.

58 posted on 10/03/2005 5:06:19 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

The President selected someone without a paper trail, who hadn't made controversial decisions, who had no record in the conservative movement and for whom the presidential staff vouched for their conservativsm with a "trust us" response. His name was David Souter and the president was George W. Bush's father.


59 posted on 10/03/2005 5:07:27 PM PDT by laconic
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To: McGavin999
they would know that our constitution was not written to be "interpreted" by "experts". It was written to be understood by the common man. The legal elitiests seem to require some kind of track record

I'll take this opportunity to lodge some mild disagreement. Having had the opportunity to read an opinion or two in constitutional law whilst wandering through the groves of academe, I can say that they are some of the most closely reasoned documents you will ever read.

So although the Constitution is quite understandable, the interpretation of it, its application to modern situations, and the reasoning behind these matters seems decidedly more demanding than you give credit to.

And having said all that, the bottom line is that we will now wait and see. But I am not as hopeful as I wish I were, or more precisely, I really don't care to fight for her approval.

60 posted on 10/03/2005 5:07:47 PM PDT by aBootes
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