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The Coming Explosion Over Miers – Redux (Too many conservatives going off half-cocked.)
The American Thinker ^ | October 3, 2005 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 10/03/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by quidnunc

Rush Limbaugh has found the information that Harriet Miers is an evangelical Christian, a member of a church in Dallas that most would describe as "fundamentalist." I believe that this vindicates my earlier analysis based on mistaken information about a Ministry supported by Ms. Miers.

Blue state fundamentalists tend to hate evangelicals the way that Islamists hate Jews: viscerally. It will take enormous willpower for many of them to avoid saying that one who believes in the literal word of the Bible should not be allowed a place on the Supreme Court. They played footsie with the position that a devout Catholic would be disqaualified.

To partially quote my earlier post: this is a battle the Democrat left can't win with a majority of the American public, which sees religious faith as a good thing. As far as I am concerned about the coming attacks, Dirty Harry summed up my feelings: "Go ahead — make my day."

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(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: harrietmiers
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To: Texas Federalist

I have no idea, but you certainly didn't post anything that proved he was a liberal.


261 posted on 10/03/2005 8:41:52 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: FFIGHTER
There seems to be amazing contradictions in the discourse, on the one hand, no one knows anything about her, but every pundit knows they don't like her,

There is nothing contradictory about the fact that somebody doesn't like her because they know nothing about her. And it's not as if information will surface that we should be waiting for before we form an opinion - no information will change the fact that she has no sustained judicial record of conservatism like the many circuit court judges Bush could have nominated. She may turn out to be acceptible. But we want the BEST choice and we did not get that.

262 posted on 10/03/2005 8:44:42 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: quidnunc

You just proved my point.


263 posted on 10/03/2005 8:46:51 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: Howlin

No I did not (Sorry, I'm lazy at 11 pm). I don't think you would disagree with me if you read his opinions. My only point was that Bush isn't 100% on his judicial nominations at the circuit court level, although he has been very good.


264 posted on 10/03/2005 8:54:32 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Republican senators please Bork Harriet Myers!!!!)
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To: quidnunc
I agree with you. However, while Roberts is acceptable, he isn't hardly ( based on the scant evidence )in the Scalia or Thomas mold promised in the campaign. If Miers is confirmed and turns out to be a Souter, I'll look for the third column ( most likely Constitution Party ) on every ballot from here on out.
Republicans have the Congress and the Presidency, and were elected on the basis of smaller government. Their performance in office with respect to that platform has been disappointing at best.
265 posted on 10/03/2005 8:59:41 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Texas Federalist
The prognosticating "pundits" have not had a good track record in reading the "tea leaves". Considering 7 of the 9 Justices were picked by Republicans, and decried by the Democrats at the time and for which six of the seven had long paper trails to "back" their supposed conservative credentials.
266 posted on 10/03/2005 9:00:42 PM PDT by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: quidnunc
"What they don't seem to understand is that the GOP is by no means assured of winning such a fight. "

Especially with a bunch of girlie men as soldiers.

Conservatives are eagerly jumping into the Democrats' strategy of triangulation.

They don't need to stand for anything, they just need to keep us fighting among ourselves and on the defensive to create enough of a perception of incompetence and corruption that they can win the battle easily...even though everyone not terminally infected with the liberal disease knows they're a bunch of shameless scum.

267 posted on 10/03/2005 9:08:45 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Cautor
The thesis proffered by Tom Bell--whoever he is-- is laughable.

Ignoring the particular comment in question, Tom Bell is an extremely smart and insightful individual; he is one of those people that when you find yourself disagreeing with him, you should immediately re-examine your assumptions. He is well-known in circles that are less than mainstream, as his area of expertise and writing is usually the market dynamics of legal and political systems (while dabbling in writings in surprisingly diverse areas). I am almost surprised to see him quoted here, and when he bothers to offer opinions on political matters it is not a bad idea to pay attention; while he generally avoids political commentary, his political analysis is frequently as deeply incisive as Rush's and far, far better than pundits like Coulter or Hannity. Just an FYI on this guy since I suspect most Freepers haven't heard of him; he has a low profile but he is extremely reputable to those familiar with his work and indisputably brilliant.

While I had not heard this particular theory, now that I think about it, I find Bell's hypothesis fairly compelling and it makes sense from a political calculus perspective. Just because conservatives have bloodlust does not make it a good idea to go to war. Going to war is short-sighted and foolish if one can avoid it.

268 posted on 10/03/2005 9:13:18 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I never said I was going to bed...I never said I was tired... I said I found your line of reasoning exhausting...


269 posted on 10/03/2005 9:58:27 PM PDT by carton253 (It's better to have a gun and not need it than not have a gun and need it.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Thanks for the link.


270 posted on 10/03/2005 10:08:24 PM PDT by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Ninian Dryhope
snot: "Why should I support the pick?"

ND: Who cares if you do or do not? You do not get to vote on this nomination. She is in, with or without your support.

I think you hit the nail on the head with your reply. Much more revealing than you probably intended.

271 posted on 10/03/2005 10:16:21 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

I feel Bush will have at least one Supreme Court nominee, Justice Stevens is 85 or older and he can't last too much longer on the court. SO the odds are that Bush will get one more in the next 2 to 3 years.


272 posted on 10/03/2005 10:24:16 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: mulligan

I agree


273 posted on 10/03/2005 10:30:28 PM PDT by woofie (Trying hard to become another Buckhead)
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To: Judith Anne
True, but he didn't nominate Clinton to the SCOTUS, now, did he?

That's because he knows Billy wants to be Secretary of the World.

274 posted on 10/03/2005 11:35:42 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

LOL.


275 posted on 10/03/2005 11:36:20 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: FFIGHTER
There seems to be amazing contradictions in the discourse, on the one hand, no one knows anything about her, but every pundit knows they don't like her, but they can't qualify it. There has yet to be a calm discussion on the actual qualifications or lack thereof. No discussion of her judicial philosophy only empty denials of it, yet no one seems to know what her judicial philosophy is, but that they are against it.

OR, on the other hand they support the nominee, but they can't qualify it. They are mad that some won’t support the choice, but they are just as unable to provide evidence in the form of speeches, written decisions, etc.

Sorry folks, but if the strategy is to slip someone in without a record, I don't see any more convincing evidence coming out for us to base a decision on. You are going to have to take this entirely on faith.

Feeling better about it now?

I hope she works out, I really hope so. As NINIAN DENDEH (sp?)vividly points out, I have no say in this. So, it could be years before we get any kind of feeling for the temperament of this judge. Sorry, but that does make me queasy.

I agree with what many here are saying that the perception given by this pick is that there was no will, or ability to fight for a strong conservative originalist. Thus, we are left to take it as faith that she is a strong conservative originalist that can be slipped in the back door.

Seems like they are going pretty far to avoid admitting they are conservatives, or earning a well deserved victory on principle.

A popular theory for avoiding a fight in support of Meir is that we are unable to fight this out in the Senate. We don’t have the political capital because Pubbie Senators won’t/ don't fight the litany of liberal lies about Iraq, Katrina etc. We have just taken too many shots. The President’s ratings are too low (who cares) and we cannot afford to fight for a conservative appointment.

So basically we can’t fight, because we won’t fight. Their lack of willingness to fight has left them unable to fight. I can’t discount this, but it’s just sad.

No wonder all the knee jerking and depression over this. The fight for a conservative POTUS and Congress results not in the ability to appoint conservatives to SCOTUS, but in impotence due to a lack of will to stand up. That is the perception.

I really hope my "analysis" is wrong. I hope W and Karl have nominated someone we will be proud of. I just hate waiting ten years to find out, knowing there would have been no doubt with many others.

I feel that some things are worth fighting for. If this isn't one of those things, then what is?

276 posted on 10/03/2005 11:54:48 PM PDT by ottersnot (Kill a commie for your mommie....Johnnie Ramone. American Rocker and patriot)
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To: tortoise

Yes, your guy Bell sounds like just the sort of fellow you should look to for your thinking.


277 posted on 10/04/2005 5:01:42 AM PDT by Cautor
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To: Judith Anne

Shoulda, coulda, woulda This one is here and now.


278 posted on 10/04/2005 7:17:59 AM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: McGavin999

Those guys can hold on a long time. They'll have to drag Ginsburg & Stevens out by their Oxygen & IV tubes.


279 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:08 AM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: JustAnotherOkie
"His last chance?" Says who?

Do you realize the ages of some of those justices?

Bush may well get a third pick to the court before his term ends, IMO.

280 posted on 10/04/2005 7:21:19 AM PDT by moondoggie
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