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Mill Finds New Use For Guns
The Daily Oklahoman ^ | 10-03-05 | Ty McMahan

Posted on 10/03/2005 12:26:13 PM PDT by Osage Orange

Mill finds new use for guns

By Ty McMahan

The Oklahoman

Thousands of weapons seized by law enforcement agencies in Oklahoma are converted each year from firearms to fence posts.

The process takes place in Sand Springs, home of the state's only steel mill, where the guns are dumped into an 82-ton furnace and melted down to liquid steel. The steel from the guns is used for fence posts and reinforcing bar.

Oklahoma City police delivered a load of about 1,700 guns Friday to be destroyed.

"We heat it up to about 3,100 degrees," said Mike Grayson, general foreman at Sheffield Steel. "Those guns turn to molten metal that pours like water."

Grayson said Sheffield Steel has provided the service to law enforcement agencies, free of charge, for more than 35 years.

"It's thousands of guns," Grayson said. "There has been a pile out there as tall as my head."

Guns are not the only contraband that meets its fiery end in Sheffield Steel's furnaces.

Grayson said the steel company burns knives, brass knuckles, drugs and pornography, among other items.

"I remember when I was a kid, we burned a lot of slot machines they got during a raid," Grayson said. "They found them at some country club."

Guns, however, are more common than any other item brought in by law enforcement agencies, Grayson said.

Oklahoma City police Sgt. Gary Knight said the department destroys nearly 2,000 guns every year.

"That's after we've gone through all the steps to track down the owner," Knight said.

Knight said the department returns about 500 guns to their rightful owners every year.

Destroying all the guns is a decision Oklahoma City police think will help keep the streets safe. Knight said every destroyed gun is one less that can find its way into the hands of a criminal.

"We don't want to start supplying guns to the public," Knight said.

Grayson said it pains him sometimes to see quality guns go up in flames -- eventually becoming a post to hang barbed wire in someone's cattle pasture.

"I hate doing this, because I see a lot of good guns that go to waste," Grayson said.

Most departments agree with Grayson.

Jim Cox, executive director of the Oklahoma Association of Police Chiefs, said many departments, especially those with smaller budgets, rely on the resale of seized guns to help pay for equipment.

"Just because it comes in the hands of the police does not mean it shouldn't be turned back to someone for legitimate use," Cox said.

Cox said many long rifles and shotguns used for sporting purposes are resold to the public. He said there is a detailed system of background checks and safeguards to ensure weapons are sold to people who intend to use them for legitimate purposes.

Tom Shaffer, president of the Oklahoma Sheriff's Association, said his department in Major County earned about $6,000 from the sale of guns at the last county auction. He said some of the guns are traded to dealers for other equipment needed by the department. Most guns that can't be used for sporting purposes are destroyed.

"It does a lot for us," Shaffer said. "Since our budget is so short, it does a lot for buying equipment and training."

Tulsa County Sheriff Stanley Glanz said he has received criticism for reselling the guns.

"They try to jump on me for selling hunting weapons, but I agree with the Second Amendment -- that people have a right to have those guns in their homes," Glanz said.

"Guns are part of the American tradition. No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; crime; grabbers; guns; meltdown
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1 posted on 10/03/2005 12:26:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange

"Thousands of weapons seized by law enforcement agencies in Oklahoma are converted each year from firearms to fence posts."

How moronic.


2 posted on 10/03/2005 12:29:47 PM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Osage Orange

What a waste


3 posted on 10/03/2005 12:32:08 PM PDT by gondramB ( We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.)
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To: Osage Orange

Do they make plowshares?


4 posted on 10/03/2005 12:33:33 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Osage Orange
"Grayson said it pains him sometimes to see quality guns go up in flames -- eventually becoming a post to hang barbed wire in someone's cattle pasture. "

What irony! Melting a tool of freedom to make a post to hang a symbol of imprisonment!

At any rate, its surprising that guns would be melted for fence posts or rebar. I would expect both of those to be mild steel (1018 or so). Aren't guns either some alloy or at least s high carbon steel?
5 posted on 10/03/2005 12:36:35 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Osage Orange
"Guns are part of the American tradition. No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America."

Right on.
6 posted on 10/03/2005 12:37:12 PM PDT by steel_resolve
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To: Constitution Day

gives new meaning to "dumb as a post".


7 posted on 10/03/2005 12:37:15 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: Osage Orange

Why don't they SELL THEM LEGALLY AND MAKE SOME REAL MONEY????.........


8 posted on 10/03/2005 12:37:36 PM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: Osage Orange

they would make more money selling the guns at a discount price


9 posted on 10/03/2005 12:38:14 PM PDT by DM1
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To: Osage Orange

This is news? It's been done in Detroit for years. However there have been a few missing items, "including firearms, drugs, ect" from the property room.


10 posted on 10/03/2005 12:38:28 PM PDT by Springman (Job hunting sucks!!!)
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To: Pessimist

Doesn't matter. Once it's melted, it's just iron along with the rest of the stuff in the pot.........


11 posted on 10/03/2005 12:39:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: Pessimist

Rebar is a little inconsistant but is typically a medium carbon steel, it needs the strength.


12 posted on 10/03/2005 12:44:34 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate their country. Islam is a terrorist organization.)
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To: Osage Orange
This is just dripping with unintentional irony.

Every gun that's melted down becomes another sales opportunity for gun manufacturers. Reselling the guns would hurt sales of new guns.

There will be absolutely zero net reduction in the number of guns in circulation. Meanwhile, the manufacturers benefit from increased sales -- helping to ensure that they stay in the gun-making business.

Did the gun lobby pay someone in Oklahoma off in order to create this program?
13 posted on 10/03/2005 12:46:43 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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This is just dripping with unintentional irony.

Every gun that's melted down becomes another sales opportunity for gun manufacturers. Reselling the guns would hurt sales of new guns.

There will be absolutely zero net reduction in the number of guns in circulation. Meanwhile, the manufacturers benefit from increased sales -- helping to ensure that they stay in the gun-making business.

Did the gun lobby pay someone in Oklahoma off in order to create this program?
14 posted on 10/03/2005 12:46:51 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”

“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”
“No matter how many laws you have, you're not going to get rid of guns in America.”

Bears repeating a few times.

15 posted on 10/03/2005 12:48:51 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Rakkasan1
Grayson said the steel company burns...drugs and pornography, among other items.

Maybe they could make some additional money burning infidels.

16 posted on 10/03/2005 12:49:41 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Pessimist
At any rate, its surprising that guns would be melted for fence posts or rebar. I would expect both of those to be mild steel (1018 or so). Aren't guns either some alloy or at least s high carbon steel?

Toss in a couple brass knuckles (are they still available?), knives, cheapo firearms, other assorted scrap …
17 posted on 10/03/2005 12:51:33 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Osage Orange
How times have changed. Some of my in-law's ancestors were from Texas then Oklahoma.

I remember reading a story about them in an old West magazine. When they were traveling through Indian territory, they stopped at a fort. The army gave them three surplus Spencer rifles and a bunch of ammo.

If that happened today, the army would probably seize their guns.

18 posted on 10/03/2005 12:54:06 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Osage Orange

Do they melt down the cars they seize or tow? Or sell them at auction? Is there a double standard for Crime Cars?


19 posted on 10/03/2005 12:55:31 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Osage Orange
guns are dumped into an 82-ton furnace and melted down to liquid steel. The steel from the guns is used for fence posts and reinforcing bar… the steel company burns knives, brass knuckles, drugs and pornography, among other items.

Guns, drugs and pornography.

Them's the makings of a quality fence post.

20 posted on 10/03/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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