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To: megatherium
The problem with this theory is that there are many victims of molestation, yet only some of them turn out gay. I will venture to guess: Fewer molestation victims become gay (by percent) than monozygotic twin brothers of homosexual men turn out gay.

A. A molestation victim with a sound support network (that is, a good relationship with his father) is far more likely to recover from the mental trauma of the molestation, Just as he is more likely to recover from any other trauma.

The relationship with the father turns out to be the critical factor. (Which also goes a long way towards explaining why sexual perversion seems to be on the upswing.) No fathers = more sexual deviants.

B. There is no such thing as a 'homosexual man' with a monozygotic twin. There are only previously diseased men with twins. The only thing we know about the first twin is that he participates in homosexual activity (That is, is afflicted with SAD). In most cases his twin is raised in the same environment, exposed to the same molestation risk and the same relationship with their father.

At any rate, some homosexuals do seek sex with underage boys, but most do not.

According to "The Gay Report" 74% of active homosexuals report having had sexual relations with minors. It is a recurring theme in 'gay' literature and to this date as far as I know no 'gay' organization has ever repudiated NAMBLA. (Unfortunately the gay report is not available on the web as far as I know. If you can find it please ping me to it)

(Any exposure of children to homosexuality is child abuse)

me->get educated

you->Oh, golly -- I know more about this subject than I care to -- it's affected my family, and being scientifically trained, I've read quite a bit about it.

Obviously not educated enough yet. Read scripter's database and learn the truth. (He posted a few links up thread) We've been tracking the agenda for years and have studied almost every study that's come out. Homosexuality was removed from the DSM as a political ploy. There was not then, nor is there now any scientific reason to call it anything but a mental disease.

BTW. Lots of us here have been affected by this disease. It is in our families and I know of several recovered abuse victims and even a few folks who have been healed of their SAD (Same-sex Attraction Disorder).

69 posted on 10/05/2005 5:21:14 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
My strong suspicion is that there are multiple or overlapping causes of homosexuality: I don't doubt that molestation is a contributing factor if not a major cause. But I know for a fact that many gay men were not molested as children. (Some gay men weren't molested by adults as children, but had premature sexual experiences with peers. However, this sort of thing is common among boys and most of the participants don't turn out gay.) You mentioned another cause: relentless teasing by peers. This is a common experience reported by gay men. I think I already mentioned the study that found that 75% of all boys identified as sissies by their peers become gay men.

I think you are correct about the importance of the father. This theory is at least as predictive as any of the others. Another theory is the "exotic becomes erotic" theory of the psychologist Darrrel Bem (Cornell University). This is the theory that boys are programmed to become sexually attracted to the gender they are separated from in their pre-teen years. Normally, boys avoid girls in this critical time frame; but if a boy is rejected by peers and plays with the girls (common among "sissies"), it's the male gender that becomes fascinating to the unfortunate boy -- he turns out gay.

I can't find The Gay Report on the web either; it was a book that appeared in the late 1970s. I have no reason to question the 74% figure; but the exact quote (as found on the web) is that this is the fraction of gay men who report sexual experiences "with boys 17 to 19 years or younger". What fraction of these are having sex with boys (younger than college-aged) I am unable to determine. Sexual attraction to someone aged 17 to 19 is not considered to be a mental illness. (Not that I would ever defend such behavior: where I used to teach, there was a middle-aged prof who had a habit of hitting on the coeds. He got into big trouble.)

I'm sorry to hear that your family has also been affected by these issues. I have friends, relatives and collegues who are gay (hard to avoid if you work in a university environment). Most of these are decent, quiet people. But I do sense a feeling of hurt in them, or a sadness and feeling of loss in some of them. And I reflect on the recent report that found that 25% of all sexually active urban gay men have HIV. I pray for them.

71 posted on 10/05/2005 7:27:57 AM PDT by megatherium
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