[JesseJane]

To which I say, wingman, we disagree. The President HAS sold us out and he planned to long ago. CAFTA is a prime example. The selling of America didn't start with GW, but he certainly pushed it into high gear. There are plenty of specifics to back up my opinion. But for an obvious example consider his resistance to close the border and do a little count of who should be returned to their home country and told to go through the legal process.

Consider his trashing of the Swiftboat vets and the Minute Men. His refusal to step boldly on border issues and it's costs to all Americans beginning at the local level. 911 presented the absolute perfect opportunity to make the changes necessary to 'PROTECT' America and Americans. But, it was not done. 6 years later,the Domestic policy and rights of Americans have been brazenly chewed if not shredded. I point to eminent domain, CFR, CAFTA and the border as specific and egregious attacks against our own citizens that occurred on GW's watch. I expected much much more from him and the GOP.

No one takes actors seriously anymore, least of all Donald Sutherland.. so to me, sugesting what Sutherland would've done is a ridiculous comparison imho.

[wingman1]

I voted for Bush for two reasons.

1) After decades of indifference to Islamist terrorists he has been the only President to take action against them.

2) I view the appointment of conservative judges to the Federal bench and the Supreme Court to be of paramount importance.

While I do not agree with many of the actions President Bush has taken, I certainly do not share your view that these constitute "specific and egregious attacks against our own citizens".

Please go back and reread my previous post in which I made reference of what would happen if the "likes" of Donald Sutherland ran things - a reference not just to actors but to left wing Marxists like Hillary Clinton.