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To: LibertyRocks
If you recall, after the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, those who believed there was a muslim connection were pretty much deemed crackpots while the media proceeded to blame the groups who had the most to lose by such an action.

Those investigating Waco and Ruby Ridge, the "militias", gun owners, and the religious right were all splattered with the blame for the bloodshed there, to Clinton's political advantage, effectively muzzling many of Clintons' most harsh and outspoken critics.

Ensuing investigations into Waco were whitewashed (including the Congressional one), and the idea that the Murragh Building bombing had already extracted reprisal for Waco took the wind out of any prosecutorial sails.

The MSM participated with a vengeance, to the point that CNN ran commercials over questions asked by Republicans during the first couple of hours of hearings, and only came back to the feed for Chuck Shumer's histrionics. (Five minute rule)

C-Span ran the ongoing hearings, or at least excerpts, at the end of the normal business of the House, which began anywhere from 6PM to 10PM and ran during the night. The scheduling made it virtually impossible to view or record the Waco hearings. Even an 8 hour tape might not get the whole thing).

Americans, not wanting to deal with the carnage, nor the inevitable feeling (and knowledge) that their government agencies had done something terribly wrong, simply ignored it and let it go away, the political equivalent of a three year-old holding their hands over their ears and going "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA".

The inescapable remains, that these types of incidents have been going on for some time, many appear to have been intentionally quashed in the media, and they will not only continue as long as there are more terrorists out there, but that the American people (and other nationalities who ignore the threat) will be happy to be ignorant of the danger.

Official investigations will continue to play the incidents down, whether legitimately to not interfere with ongoing investigations, or, more likely, to not disturb the general 'feelgood' that gets politicians elected.

I guess I'd rather be a safe 'crackpot conspiracy theorist' than dead.

4,535 posted on 10/07/2005 12:57:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I guess I'd rather be a safe 'crackpot conspiracy theorist' than dead.

Especially when the "crackpot conspiracy theory" is the truth.

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4,540 posted on 10/07/2005 1:34:10 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I was watching the MSM coverage of the Murrah Building - all day long as I was home with a toddler and an infant at the time. I kept switching back and forth between the 3 networks and I remember well how the story changed in the first few hours - first 3 people... finally ending with McVeigh's capture and him being indicted alone. It was that day that I "woke up" and realized the MSM indeed lies at times. It was quite a shocking day and I remember thinking to myself how could they ignore what they just reported and buy the officials' bait hook line and sinker! I was 23 at the time, and I was still under the illusion that the stuff I'd learned in journalism class about integrity, being un-biased, questioning all sources, and getting to the bottom of the story was followed by ALL reporters.

I am also somewhat familiar with Waco and Ruby Ridge. In fact, I found the book "No More Wacos: What's Wrong With Federal Law Enforcement and How to Fix It -- by David B. Kopel, Paul H. Blackman" at a library sale a couple months back and just read through it - fascinating stuff in there. I've read other reports as well as talked to others who have investigated it in depth and there is so much that's not spoken of. Even if it is to try and debunk theories I think they should at least consider the possibilities in all of these events! Of course, then they would find that most of it is the truth...

It's sickening really the way this stuff has all come about and how much the average American is oblivious to - perhaps that is a good thing though in a way. Some people (most) have a hard time taking the "red pill" - survival mechanism I guess. Part of me wishes I could go back to the days when I was blissfully ignorant but it's like they say - you can't turn back time.

"I guess I'd rather be a safe 'crackpot conspiracy theorist' than dead."

I hear you there...


4,541 posted on 10/07/2005 1:40:30 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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