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Space Age Metal: New Titanium Alloys Near 'Magic' Strength Threshold
Space.com ^ | 22 April 2003 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 10/01/2005 6:10:57 PM PDT by strategofr

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To: Last Dakotan

Everything we have seen really neat like lexan etc I believe was pretty much discovered by accident.....

Wasn't the sugar free sweetner aspertame (sp?) a rat poison in development ?


81 posted on 10/01/2005 8:35:52 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos
Wasn't the sugar free sweetner aspertame (sp?) a rat poison in development ?

Sorry outside my field. Maybe a Chemist here can answer. I stick to Mechanical Engineering.

82 posted on 10/01/2005 8:38:26 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Mike Darancette
What is going to keep the car on the ground at speed and/or a strong side wind?

An aerodynamic shape with negative lift.

Little known fact: when aircraft models are tested in wind tunnels, they are tested "upside down" so that lift forces are added to the weight of the model. The model is "pushed" down instead of up.

For another example of a shape which is pushed down in a wind, look at one of the genuine Mexican Sombreros. The real big ones with a turned-up lip around the outside. Despite the American perception that it is just a goofy-looking hat, it is an areodynamic surface which causes a wind to force the hat tighter onto the wearer's head instead of lifting it off and blowing it away.

83 posted on 10/01/2005 8:40:20 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Last Dakotan

OK....:o)

Stay safe !


84 posted on 10/01/2005 8:41:39 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: CurlyDave
Despite the American perception that it is just a goofy-looking hat, it is an areodynamic surface which causes a wind to force the hat tighter onto the wearer's head instead of lifting it off and blowing it away.

Three more tequilas, and I'd believe you.

85 posted on 10/01/2005 8:44:27 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: FreedomCalls

LOL. Not similar to my "experience" at all, though. I ended up at a slow crawl, surrounded by about 30 cyclists, who spat on the car (a rental), and made all sorts of rude comments, including the usual speculation about Corvettes and their male drivers (I had a Boxster reserved but they overbooked and that was what I got). They even insulted the girl I was with, who was a bit naive and actually asked them for directions.

Had I backed up, I would have flattened several of them.


86 posted on 10/01/2005 8:45:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: strategofr

yoi desho nee!!!! daijobu koto dessho nee!!!!


87 posted on 10/01/2005 8:49:53 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: strategofr

Hey, thanks.

See, I knew we could and were/are doing better than trial and error. It only makes sense that chemists and physicists using super computers could come up with new stuff.

This is so cool. Wonder how long it will take for some of this new stuff to show up commercially?

Ultralight cars and bikes will be really great, but think what it will mean to aviation and space - lighter planes and rockets, less fuel. And how about stronger framework for highrise buildings, or super ships like carriers twice current size or subs diving twice as deep? And what top speeds might be possible? How about stronger lighter armor plating?

Awesome possibilities.


88 posted on 10/01/2005 8:53:36 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: Republic
I kept waiting to read about this type of lightweight but supra strong and flexible metal being used in cars..since the founder works for Toyota.

Toyota is a gigantic company with many interests ranging from mining to space. A few years ago they certified an aero-engine (which was then never produced) and they had Scaled Composites build a proof of concept aircraft which was tested under great secrecy for about two years. They never said "boo" about it in public, but just cause it says "Toyota" don't assume it's destined for the next Camry.

A theoretical/molecular approach to alloys development is not new. I believe the lithium alloy that Airbus is using for the "forehead" or upper nose of the freight version of the A380 was developed this way. Of course lithium is not entirely new; some marks of F-15 have lithium alloy wing skins (lighter than anything that's a solid metal at ordinary temperatures). That alloy was developed traditionally.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

89 posted on 10/01/2005 9:00:08 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Republic
I have this fantasy that will no doubt become reality during my lifetime; a sword that cannot be damaged and which will cut through most everything.

It will be tough, elastic and yet exceedingly hard. And from this sword will come miracles. And then will come Toyotas, and tent poles, and flatware.

90 posted on 10/01/2005 9:09:48 PM PDT by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: goldstategop
The bicycle industry will look to see if these new titanium alloy mixtures can make their bikes light as a feather and at the same time extremely tough. The wonders of space age metallurgy.

For some of us bicycle (weight) technology has long since passed the point of diminishing returns. Just give me a chain lube that needs to be applied but once a year while sloughing off dirt in Seattle's rainy environment...

91 posted on 10/01/2005 9:12:01 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Having once been surrounded and accosted by what can only be termed a spitting, profane mob of "bicycle fascists" in downtown San Francisco

I quit the local (and I believe the largest nationally) bike club once I'd determined its membership, not to mention leadership, was largely comprised of such. That they preferred cycle-commuting, no problem -- so did I (for *myself*; it was easy on the pocketbook, enjoyable, faster than driving, and good for my health). But they didn't stop there...

92 posted on 10/01/2005 9:20:48 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: buccaneer81
Well, obey the rules of the road. No tandem riding

The Revised Code of the state of Washington (RCW) permits riding two abreast on the road. IMHO a bad rule, but there it is.

But I agree: bicycle-riders and cyclists alike ought to know and obey the law. I wish the police were more aggressive at ticketing violators...

93 posted on 10/01/2005 9:26:01 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: CurlyDave
An aerodynamic shape with negative lift.

Would there be trim tabs for varying conditions?

94 posted on 10/01/2005 9:29:22 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: AntiGuv; KevinDavis

cool stuff


95 posted on 10/01/2005 9:35:04 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: AntiGuv

please add me to your futuretech list


96 posted on 10/01/2005 9:46:15 PM PDT by King Prout (19sep05 - I want at least 2 Saiga-12 shotguns. If you have leads, let me know)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

try a cobra 454 composite with a 7.5 degree some butt whuupin tool


97 posted on 10/01/2005 9:48:49 PM PDT by mt tom
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To: strategofr

This stuff will first be first used in a golf club within 4 months and all of the weekend duffers will take out second mortgages in the hopes of shaving 2 strokes from their +25 handicaps.


98 posted on 10/01/2005 9:58:46 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: King Prout; texas booster

Welcome aboard!


99 posted on 10/01/2005 9:58:57 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: gortklattu

Foam aluminum has been around for nearly 20 years or more. I have a sample packed away in a box somewhere. I also have a foam carbon sample that is really cool as well. The foam ceramics are the really interesting materials though. Once upon a time I used to be on top of this new advanced materials stuff. Then the Cold War ended and we are lucky to use the stuff on golf clubs and tennis rackets.


100 posted on 10/01/2005 10:05:32 PM PDT by anymouse
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