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Bill Bennett's Reality-Based Defenders
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| 09/30/2005
| Nick Schulz
Posted on 09/30/2005 7:52:43 PM PDT by veronica
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posted on
09/30/2005 7:52:44 PM PDT
by
veronica
To: veronica
Bill Clinton claimed while he was president that he wanted to have a "national conversation on race." Perhaps he was being sincere. But it's plain from recent events that hardly anyone else in this country really, truly wants to have a "conversation" on this topic. If the mindless, knee-jerk reaction to Bennett's remarks -- including from places like the White House -- is any indicator, no one has any interest in an honest discussion of race. Liberals don't want a discussion .. they just want to paint Conservatives as all racists
Oh and that comment from the WH was made before the news came out Bennetts words were taken out of context
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:02:07 PM PDT
by
Mo1
To: veronica
The best suggestion is to build a time machine and abort every pro-abortion-er.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:02:31 PM PDT
by
Tim Long
(No, Christine Todd Whitman, it's not your party too.)
To: veronica
Here's the incendiary remark that he made on his popular radio program:
"
if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
Bennett has pointed out, correctly, that his remarks have been taken out of context.
Well, then print the full quote. That's not the full quote.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:03:09 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
To: veronica
Thank goodness some liberals were honest enough to defend him. Let's hope others see fit to do the same.And exactly which liberals defended Mr Bennett? Teddy Kennedy? Howitzer Dean? Ms. Clinton?
For how deep the liberals claim to think, I find it truly astonishing how they missed the point as to what Mr. Bennett was saying! Just another opportunity to bash the vast right wing conspiracy, IMHO.......
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:03:54 PM PDT
by
eeriegeno
To: veronica
Yes, they are howling (Hey! remember the poem "HOWL"?), and let 'em howl. But that doesn't change the fact that what Bennett said was really dumb for the whole "moral" theme.
I mean, I suppose I could say, "If we gassed all the Jews, then Palestinian suicide attacks would go down" ... and, it probably would be true.
But why would I say such a thing? I mean, so what? I don't like abortions, and I don't like suicide attacks, and I don't promote abortions to reduce crime, and I don't promote genocide to reduce suicide attacks.
Ok, ok, ... he didn't "promote" it, I'm taking it out of context.
But man, it doesn't sound very moral what he said, and it was, like I said in other postings, pretty torturous. It's like talking about "food taken, after mixing with digestive fluids, turns into (blank)", and it would be true, but that's something for a book or such, no really a talk show unless you're goofy. Thanks for helping the conservative movement, Bennett.
You blew it Bennett.
VOTE FOR ARNOLD SECOND TERM
To: Mo1
Rush said today that libs want to criminalize conservatism. Many truths and topics can't be discussed because of inane political correctness and its ideological stalinists.
"IDIOTARIAN" is right.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:04:46 PM PDT
by
Luke21
To: Mo1
Liberals don't want a discussion .. they just want to paint Conservatives as all racists...Even of course, when Republicans put an African-American on the Supreme Court, whom the Libs then set out to destroy.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:04:57 PM PDT
by
veronica
("America has been killing people on this continent since it was started." PMS/ Peace Mother Sheehan)
To: Mo1
It took two full 24-hour news cycles before this story started making the rounds. That tells me that initially no one really gave a damn, until someone like Nancy Pelosi decided to make it an issue, even though railing for pro-abortion (She masks it either as "pro-choice" or "Roe", to make it all sound warm and fuzzy), is her pet issue.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:07:07 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
To: Brian_Baldwin
Bennett should stick to Las Vegas. His odds are better there. On talk radio, stupid things come out of his mouth.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:07:12 PM PDT
by
Palladin
(America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
To: Palladin
I agree. But, "these far-reaching, extensive extrapolations are, I think, tricky".
Opps. I'm starting to sound like Bill Bennett.
To: veronica
Bennett has pointed out, correctly, that his remarks have been taken out of context. Even liberal commentators like Matt Yglesias and Brad DeLong feel the context of the remarks is mitigating and Bennett has no reason to apologize for them. I knew it!
To: Palladin
On talk radio, stupid things come out of his mouth.It's not stupid when you hear the full quote. That's the problem. The MSM is making an effort to hide the final segment of the quote to make us eat our own.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:10:30 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
To: BigSkyFreeper
No .. someone from Media Matters told Nancy or her staff to make it an issue
Like I said .. they don't want a discussion .. this was part of their plan to paint conservatives as racists and corrupt
If they REALLY want a discussion ... Fine, BRING IT ON!
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:10:41 PM PDT
by
Mo1
To: Palladin
Or as Richard Nixon claimed to have said, "Yes, we could do that. [long pause] But it would be wrong."
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:10:47 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: veronica
Bennett raised questions about the caller's premise, saying that according to that logic, the argument in the book Freakonomics that allowing abortion reduces crime would be equally valid.
Referring to the book's hypothesis, Bennett told the caller, "I do know that it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could, if that were your sole purpose, you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
Bennett continued: "That would be an impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do. But your crime rate would go down."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170840,00.html
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:11:19 PM PDT
by
1035rep
To: veronica
But it's plain from recent events that hardly anyone else in this country really, truly wants to have a "conversation" on this topic. If the mindless, knee-jerk reaction to Bennett's remarks -- including from places like the White House -- is any indicator, no one has any interest in an honest discussion of race. Perhaps it's nothing new, but we live in a time where uncomfortable truths -- even challenging questions -- are to be shouted down and, if possible, driven from the public square. Harvard University's Larry Summers discovered this recently. Now Bill Bennett is on the receiving end of this same idiotarian nonsense. America is the worse for it. Well said.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:13:37 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
To: Brian_Baldwin
But why would I say such a thing? I mean, so what? I don't like abortions, and I don't like suicide attacks, and I don't promote abortions to reduce crime, and I don't promote genocide to reduce suicide attacks.Saying it and actually doing it are two different things. Bennett ended his on-air remark, something to the effect "aborting blacks to reduce crime would be dangerous and stupid".
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:13:44 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
To: Brian_Baldwin
You are taking Bennett out of context.
In context, his words make perfect sense AND they are the opposite of your claim.
By the way, why do you hate Jews?
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:15:59 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
To: Mo1
Exactly, and all these comments about Republicans and Conservatives being "corrupt" and racist can be traced back to Hurricane Katrina and it's aftermath (including Bush's primetime speech) and the President announcing John Roberts as the next USSC nominee this past Summer.
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posted on
09/30/2005 8:16:34 PM PDT
by
BigSkyFreeper
("Don't Get Stuck On Stupid!" - Lieutenant General Russell "Ragin' Cajun" Honore)
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